nothing worse than some jumped up numpty shooting everything that moves driving around thinking there the bee's knees. there are far to many macho shooters. however lets remember every pastime has there numpties. its up to each sport to try to educate there numpties . shooting a vixen with cubs to ground discusts me. if there are foxes on your shoot deal with them before they cub or get a sensable terrierman to despach them its all about timeing and respect i know a few sporting shooters and the majority of them are genuine countrymen that dislike poor sportmanship in there chosen sport. ed