yeah joe tried the kennels in coxhoe and the deerness kennels in langly moor, notified the council so fingers crossed if he is still local am hopefull ill find him, they is a lot of people looking for this this dog now. Thanks for the replys and yes he was a good dog, and he will take some replaceing thats for sure, the sad thing is he has seen better days and was due to retire in a year or so, a just hope no little chav has found him and abuses him cause the poor dogs to game for his own good.