FM,the thing im trying to suss is are there any handy frames that I can put the winch onto.I have very limited space since I did the kennells lately and was hoping someone might have a frame that could be put together and taken apart in a short time that would be strong enough for a big fat billy,lol.I dont want a permanent fixture,just something I could dismantle and erect when necessary,as some times I dont have goats for long periods.I think I will go for the clothes line pole type with an arm extension that the winch can go on.Just feeling the water to see if theres a few bright lads with