[Lurchers and Thermal]

3 minutes ago, Mr Wilkes said:

I can understand that dog lads and the ferreting boys moan about the numbers being shot but at the end of the day how do you know it’s pest not control ?. 

There’s pest control & there’s mass slaughter, end of the day nobody should be allowed to wipe a species out from a full area, for financial gain. That’s what it comes down to, wildlife being slaughtered to maximise profit from the land and it doesn’t sound so good when you say it like that.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

4 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I reckon it’s the “sport shooters” who do the most damage. End of the day it’s a job for a keeper, and for the most part the population of foxes is artificially inflated due to the release of birds. Simple fact of life is it’s their job to whack foxes and not a sport as such, so I can see why a rifle and a thermal is used. Same as why on shooting estates litters are dug etc. Hard comparing sport with pleasure. I been asked to go out tonight for a fox that dug into A partridge unit last night and killed a pile. That’s life.

The ones who are f***ing the job are the hobby shooters who’s whole life revolves around getting all of the kit and then getting the biggest bag they can to put on Facebook. 
 

But, if it’s their ground and they got perm, what you gonna do? 

Probably right, in certain areas of the country. Some keepers are killing mad as well mind you, mostly younger ones but you get the odd older one that’s trigger happy as well.

Cant do anything about it, just need to let them get on with it and have a good moan about it on here

[Lurchers and Thermal]

34 minutes ago, Pirate 9000 said:

I've heard keepers telling me that thermal let's you get the lamp shy ones,but is it the end of the world that odd foxes have been clever enough to have learned how to survive, they should be admired for being survivers, country side will be a poorer place with no foxes.

It won’t come to that, shooting will go before the foxes do, it’s only a matter of time for pheasant shoots & grouse moors I think, the pressures mounting on them. You’ll still get your rifle boys doing it as a hobby but with less keepers there’ll be a lot less foxes & other predators killed.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

1 hour ago, Pirate 9000 said:

Treating foxes has sporting animals has been forgotten, that's why it's called hunting and not killing.what pleasure anyone can get out of shooting a fox or rabbit that can't see you is beyond me,shot and left on the field like a piece of rubbish, show's very little respect for the wildlife, foxes and rabbits need sensible control not being wiped out.

Same with the mountain hare, they’ve passed a bill in Scotland to protect them but not enforced it yet so they’re still getting slaughtered. It’s probably the one that annoys me the most to be honest because they’re an iconic native species, a proper survivor where they live & they’re being blasted in their thousands by trigger happy grouse keepers. They’re in decline nationwide & it’s the people preaching about conservation & wildlife management that are to blame. 

[Lurchers and Thermal]

4 minutes ago, Wales1234 said:

Rifles absolutely destroy numbers ! Foxing wise they ruined a spot completely it’s no fit and healthy foxes getting away from a bullet , when a good fox beats a dog or hounds you can’t fault it ! 

Foxings just gone completely electronic, you’ve got men sat in a land rover, window down with a fox pro, NV, thermal and rifle. How’s that sporting in any way? 

[Lurchers and Thermal]

3 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I do agree with you in many ways mate. It’s the world we live in now though. Most people only do the things they do to make a name for themselves. 

There’s a spot we go on that’s absolutely bursting with certain quarry, we could bag up every time to get the big lined out picture for WhatsApp, but it’s short sighted, if you take a few each time and only go maybe half a dozen times a season then your good spots will stay good, but like you say for some the need to show off takes over.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

6 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

100% you’re sure that if someone posted that they’d caught a couple hundred rabbits either ferreting or whatever on here - they’d only get negative comments and no one would be praising them ?

Disnt see many negative comments on the lads doing 100+ on the lamp etc.

Just making the point that there are plenty of numbers men on both Sides of the gun / dog divide. 
 

 

They’d get loads of praise definitely but it’s short sighted. Nothing wrong with lads taking a good number 50-100 a few time’s a season but those rifle boys try to do it on every spot they go on.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

3 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

True. But if that photo had three blokes, a few dogs, pile of ferrets and long nets etc etc, they would be THL hero’s. Would they not ? 

Definitely not, still a c*nts trick no matter how you look at it taking that many of anything off 1 spot. Ferrets, dogs, nets etc takes a lot more effort than a .22 with a thermal as well.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

6 minutes ago, troyboy17 said:

That is taking the piss

Shooting fraternity don’t know any other way. Bleet on 24/7 about conservation then go out with all their gear and kill everything they see.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

33 minutes ago, poxon said:

Thermal makes sense if your running dogs on your own somewhere your not meant to be It could be a handy bit of kit to have seeing what gears actually there before flicking a lamp on burning fields down with rays of light also see if people are sniffing about But if you lamp with other people I couldn’t think of nothing more boring than being in the dark most of the night an only switching a lamp on when a runs been picked out for you an dog to run I think half the fun is the handler looking down the beam for a run for the dog 

Couldn’t agree more. For me half the fun is looking for stuff & the excitement when you find it. Those thermals take skill out of it you don’t need to know anything about your quarry anymore just chuck a couple of grand at one of them & you’ll find everything that’s in an area. 

Been sent this pic this morning end of the day they might be a handy bit of kit for lurcher lads but on the whole they want banning before they destroy the countryside

[Lurchers and Thermal]

50 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Have u used 1 before like

Never owned one myself but been out with a few lads that’s got them day & night, some people swear by them but I don’t have any use for one. GPS different story I wouldn’t be without it.

[Lurchers and Thermal]

Can see why some people like them, they’ve got their uses in some situations, they're not for me though

[The pup]

9 minutes ago, joel222 said:

He eats loads and yeh he's a saluki whippet greyhound 

At that age they go up and down weight by the day I wouldn’t worry about it, especially not with the way he’s bred

[alarming reaction]

Depends if you think the lads trustworthy enough to give you the dog back if it’s not working out, if he’s a decent lad just be honest so he knows what to expect and see if he still wants to have a go with it.

[A mate looking for a lurcher]

1 hour ago, leo1 said:

I've a young bitch here iv just got back . 11 months or there abouts , first x deerhound greyhound ,about 30 tts.bred by a member on here 

This bitch is a blank canvas ,she is fine with sheep .chicken etc.recalls perfect. Good in kennel 

What part of the country are you in? 

[Hares.]

5 hours ago, foxdropper said:

They said not to worry as I’m a welcome member of the team and that I need to concentrate  on the twats that seem to think they are above the law .Twats like you I expect .

“I know he’s my son in law but he did commit an offence, he left me no choice”

[Hares.]

1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Good watch mate .Thanks for sharing .
Son in law had an accidental catch few days back and it was accidental .It was in an enclosed dog walking area .Luckily he had decent camera though .Hares not too plentiful where he is .

 

What did the police say when you told them? 

[Hares.]

13 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Hares are doing well round my way  unlike the rabbit ,Like you say it's a shame we can no longer test our dogs on a winter hare but the shooting Brigrade can line up and shoot large numbers .i have never liked the idea of hare shoots and they do nothing for the welfare of hare population unlike the coursing clubs ?  

You need to be a proper c*nt to shoot a hare IMO.

They're doing well round by me as well, don’t run them local the fields are shit but it’s nice to see them.

[LED or normal yellow beam]

Old ones are better without a doubt, I take an LED as a spare just Incase and last season was looking at something clear as day with the blitz, turned it off put the LED on it just out of curiosity and couldn’t see it at all 

[Cordless lamp]

15 minutes ago, bird said:

its funny really, when you think about it with dogs, my big dog Buck same size as  ginger beard dog , but a different  stamina.When he was younger and fit, i could put long hard night in ,  dont get me wrong he blow a bit, but  had good recovery from each run , i always found when my bullxs  had few hard runs, they could never recover  like he could, suppose thats why lads put saluki in there pit x lines to get better wind. A gsd like a collie , both have very good natural stamina .

Saluki crosses have their faults like all dogs but they’re stamina is on a different level to any other type of lurcher I’ve seen, they can have a proper stinger & 5 minutes later look like they’ve not even had a run. I wouldn’t have a lurcher without saluki blood in now I think I’d miss the wind too much now I’m used to having it.

[What chance do we have]

Some schools are giving an option for students to be one of 60 genders apparently so the views on killing rats doesn’t surprise me

[how old for breeding ?]

19 minutes ago, derbyduck said:

what the feck you on about?

Dog wants to have a few seasons graft under its belt before you breed from it. It could be a flat out jacker & you’d be passing its cowardly genes on to its offspring without knowing. Decent lads could end up with those pups and waste 18 months rearing them. If it’s not a tested dog it shouldn’t be bred from but that doesn’t stop most lurcher owners anyway so crack on you’ll do whatever you want to do regardless what people on here tell you.

[Barf diet]

3 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Good man sounds like good stuff I don't think I'd need it just for the occasional walk round like

It benefits the type I keep mate the saluki blood can make it hard to keep a good back on them at any time of year to be honest. If I fed it to my spaniels they’d be fat as f**k within a week. It can’t be bad stuff like my male dog can be a bit fussy, wouldn’t touch any other biscuit but likes that stuff so I just stick with it 

[Barf diet]

Just now, Black neck said:

Expensive gear that wolfheart im 2 tight 4 that

It is aye if you buy 6 bags at a time it works out about £43 a bag, I’ve never bothered with those high end completes before but the 30% fat thing swayed it for me, anything that can keep the weight on mid winter is a handy thing and saves f***ing about with lard etc 

[Barf diet]

I’ve messed about with all sorts of different diets & I’ve settled on Millie’s Wolfheart peak performance with chicken mince. Best I’ve seen the dog’s looking to be fair they’re holding weight and the couple of outings I’ve had my young dogs ran well so can’t complain.

I feed my dogs breakfast in the winter as well I think unless you’ve got a dog with a slow metabolism when you’re working them hard you really can’t get enough in to them.
 

As far as BARF is concerned when I was feeding just meat I gave a mix of everything something different every night and dog did ok on it. Had to stop that though because he started to get fussy and would only eat certain things and leave others.