Thanks everyone for the replies, I'm a bit of a traditionalist and want to learn the real art of longnetting the traditional way, I know I may have problems to begin with but I'm sure with practise and advice from the lads on here I can over come them if I start out small and build from there, my goal is to long net at night like mentioned previously, I'll wait for the book and give it a go either way it can only end in a tangled mess .. not the end of the world ?