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#16 john debbage

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:33 pm

welcome............some good pics there mate.....

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:44 pm

is it all legal in that counrty to shoot the things that you shoot...........it must be a good buzz.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:40 am

is it all legal in that counrty to shoot the things that you shoot...........it must be a good buzz.

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Yes John,
We have several provinces and the hunting ordinances vary slightly in each but all is legal - only Leopard & Lion cannot be hunted with hounds unless in the case of a wounded animal.For the Leopard we go to Zimbabwe, Mozambique and Namibia.In the Sheep ranching areas farmers invite hunters to remove Caracal and Jackal and some game farmers pay hunters up to $50 per carcass.In agricultural areas - especially Maize, Sugar cane and Pineapples - Bushpig can cause severe damage and farmers welcome hunters.
Hounds have to be really 'game proofed' as nothing enrages a farmer more than to see antelope being chased by a pack of dogs.This attitude has resulted in our hunting culture completely frowning on hunting Antelope with hounds :thumbdown: ( apart from bushbuck in Eastern Cape and small Duikers ) which is a pity since there could be no more magestic Antelope than the Kudu as a quarry.
African wild dogs have been heavily persecuted for the same reason.
Most of our hound hunting is for 'problem animals' and less for meat but in the end it is to try and keep a predator : prey balance.
There are lobbyists against hunting and hound hunting and even a large percentage of our 'hunters' condemm hound hunting but we are still unprohibited by law - so far!

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:42 am

welcome mate, hope you enjoy the site. cant wait to se some more of your photo's http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I posted some of hunting in Germany - here is 1 from South africa.Attached File  n579538175_1790.jpg   11.42KB   9 downloads

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 10:14 am

welcome mate, hope you enjoy the site. cant wait to se some more of your photo's http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I posted some of hunting in Germany - here is 1 from South africa.Attached File  n579538175_1790.jpg   11.42KB   9 downloads
welcome to england africa....prrrrr :tongue2:

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 11:47 am

your a lucky man wish i could do something like what you are doing........had a look at your site some cracking pics on there.......what about the big elephant was that hunted or shot for injuries? and did the locals eat the meat?

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:38 pm

your a lucky man wish i could do something like what you are doing........had a look at your site some cracking pics on there.......what about the big elephant was that hunted or shot for injuries? and did the locals eat the meat?

The Elephant was actually not that big - approx 35yrs old and was a crop raider.It was raiding maize at night in numerous villages around the southern shore of lake Cahorra Bassa in Mozambique and became the responsibility of nature conservation to deal with.They can either kill it themselves or find a Client from 1 of the nearby concessions interested in a non-trophy hunt - which is what occurred here.We shot him at night in the beam of a Maglight as he rests away from the crops in the shade and near water during the day and then steals the crops under cover of darkness.The calorie rich crops far outweigh any 'natural' food source and it is therefore very logical.The villagers spend nights chasing away Elephants by banging pots, firecrackers, screaming e.t.c and generally it works but some Elephants realise the human danger is not life threatening and the rewards are worth the risk.
The hunter was an american trapper and a great shot - on the same Safari he got a massive Hippo and a 15ft croc - all 1 shot kills with a .375
The locals got the meat and nature department got the tusks + $2000 fee.The hunter got the memories and photos.
I got payment + gratuity and some meat rich with fat for my dogs as we had just completed 2 Leopard and a Lion hunt running on dry food, maize & fish.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:52 pm

unbelivable.... bet the locals were please aswell the dogs. a seen on one of the pics was the hounds baying a big cat of some type. do they not go for the hounds...

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 04:20 pm

unbelivable.... bet the locals were please aswell the dogs. a seen on one of the pics was the hounds baying a big cat of some type. do they not go for the hounds...

I guess you are refering to the Caracal photo.
Caracal are not really dangerous for the hounds as they can weigh +/- 25kg for a male and cannot inflict serious injury to the dogs.We use more than 1 hound as the scent is quite faint and by increasing the No of noses we improve the chances of holding the scent.1 Hound can do the job alone but the voices of many make the hunt.Another reason is the french description that a 'perfect pack' should consist of 6 hounds and each has a certain function.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:12 pm

welcome mate, hope you enjoy the site. cant wait to se some more of your photo's http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I posted some of hunting in Germany - here is 1 from South africa.Attached File  n579538175_1790.jpg   11.42KB   9 downloads
i gues the hunting season has been opend in south africa :kiss: :boogie: :clapper:

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:21 pm

Read a couple of Peter Hathaway Capstick books about African game hunting, very interesting if a little embelished :thumbs: The quarry you have sounds amazing, does anyone use running dogs over there? Obviously leopard and lion would be out of the question....unless doubled up :laugh:

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 06:17 pm

:welcomeani: :welcomeani:

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 06:48 pm

Read a couple of Peter Hathaway Capstick books about African game hunting, very interesting if a little embelished http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... The quarry you have sounds amazing, does anyone use running dogs over there? Obviously leopard and lion would be out of the question....unless doubled up http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

Many running dogs used on varied game - hare, Jackal, antelope, pigs....
In Zululand the guys take these dogs so seriously it results in betting/gambling - something being heavily critisized at the moment and most likely to be banned but currently most officials look the other way as it is deemed 'traditional' by the hunters.Most are Zulu or Xosa and crowds of 20 - 50 men each with 1,2,3 + greyhounds or greyhound/bull/hound crosses enter an area and hunt for the day regardless of permission by the owner whether it be private or state :thumbs:
It is obviously a conservation nightmare but a cultural right.
Another interesting use for running dogs is the Boerewindhond (translates as farmer greyhound which looks alot like a deerhound/wolfhound/greyhound, I don't know the exact history) used for capturing game - especially large Antelope - by game capture teams who then follow up and secure the animal for transport and live sale.
Running dog crosses are found all over SA.
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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:57 pm

Very interesting, thanks for replying :thumbs:

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:22 pm

I posted some of hunting in Germany - here is 1 from South africa.Attached File  n579538175_1790.jpg   11.42KB   9 downloads


Now thats thats some cracking game to Hunt ;)! how easy are they to to catch though mate :laugh:....

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