timwest

Haha your so funny! Go buy a cheap scope then! Bet it won't last you anywhere near as long as a decent make, if you want a decent set up, you have to pay the price, when you have your rifle and wondering what scope to buy, just think what you are using your rifle for, and if a shit scope will do the job, fair enough if it will, but if you want precision then you have to pay top money! Why do you think the military kit there snipers out with top of the range scopes? I don't think I've ever seen one with a cheap scope on? Have you? Your just proving how much of a wanker you are? Tim

Like the one i had last night with my lurcher dead on impact and brought back to hand, seen many a fox injured and in pain with shot guns and rifles, no matter how good you are you wont kill every one instantly. if you are sensible enough, and can shoot and you shoot a fox at a sensible range, why wouldn't it be dead everytime? You saying a shot to the heart/lungs will drop a fox then it'll get back up and run off?

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if you measure side on from the front of the fox to the back, there is roughly 10 inches. and 4 inches high. how can you not see that? hit a fox within that range and itll die

ive shot plenty of foxes at 50 yards within that size. a 22lr has a hell of a lot of power at 50 yards. i use cci stingers and as soon as they hit home. the fox is down. end of Ok pal. a typical kill zone for a fox is 10" x 4" actually. just had a measure up.

ive shot plenty of foxes at 50 yards within that size. a 22lr has a hell of a lot of power at 50 yards. i use cci stingers and as soon as they hit home. the fox is down. end of

well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever range you de

well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever range you de

there is a big difference between using one and not using one. it does reduce sound but you can never get rid of the bullet crack. i use a reflex t8. on a .222. it does add a lot of weight to the end of your barrel. but i like this as it holds the barrel down when firing and makes it so you can see what you've shot at drop through the scope. there is very little recoil as well + you probably know, but if you dont, you cant buy a moderator unless you have been granted one on your fac, if you have, you will then need your barrel screw cutting, if not done already, then you have to buy a moderato

the problem is this. when you first put the scope on, the turrets will have been screwed right. meaning when you put the scope on it doesnt leave you room to adjust right. take the scope off. unscrew your turret to half way between left and right. if it doesnt say on it. count the clicks. then mount your scope again. this happened on my schmidt & bender 8x56. but this solved it

basically in most products today you are paying for the name, such as clothing and things. however with scopes your not. your cheaper scopes are good for air rifles. but when you get upto the bigger calibers such as a .243 there are several requirements. you must have a scope that will resist the recoil and hold zero. i presume you are wanting a 243 for foxes and deer? so you will need a scope with a decent magnification to take the longer shot. if shooting foxes at night, you want a bigger objective to let in more light and you need a crisp clear image. and a reticle you can see. you will get

i went and bought the German Schmidt & bender 8x56, my mate has the Hungarian version and they are exactly the same. other than one says German and other Hungarian i then wished i had bought the Hungarian and saved money. i wouldn't swap the scope for any other. once i zeroed it in ive never had to adjust it. it has held zero. they are unbelievably clear. especially when lamping at night. i was shocked.

i would doubt the light gathering proprties are any better..... both scopes are of identical component parts just assembled in different countries. Build quality ? you'll never know any difference except the price, go for the Hungarian atb Alan agreed. i went and bought a german, but my mate owns a hungarian. the low light conditions were identical

generally well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever

i use the vaccuuum cleaner to try get rid of powder. the spray wd40 down it then circle it around to make sure it gets every where inside the baffles then turn on end and stand it on radiator to dry. i do this to my t8. it stops it rusting as wd40 displaces water/moisture, every once in a while i use the brush for my rifle barrel. and give the baffles a good brushing out. Vaccuum cleaner!, that's a good idea. When i put the MOD back on i always wonder if some crap is going to fall back down the barrel, but a vaccuum would soirt that. The LEI is stainless so it's all right on the rust front.