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Haha your so funny! Go buy a cheap scope then! Bet it won't last you anywhere near as long as a decent make, if you want a decent set up, you have to pay the price, when you have your rifle and wondering what scope to buy, just think what you are using your rifle for, and if a shit scope will do the job, fair enough if it will, but if you want precision then you have to pay top money! Why do you think the military kit there snipers out with top of the range scopes? I don't think I've ever seen one with a cheap scope on? Have you? Your just proving how much of a wanker you are? Tim
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Like the one i had last night with my lurcher dead on impact and brought back to hand, seen many a fox injured and in pain with shot guns and rifles, no matter how good you are you wont kill every one instantly. if you are sensible enough, and can shoot and you shoot a fox at a sensible range, why wouldn't it be dead everytime? You saying a shot to the heart/lungs will drop a fox then it'll get back up and run off?
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lol
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if you measure side on from the front of the fox to the back, there is roughly 10 inches. and 4 inches high. how can you not see that? hit a fox within that range and itll die
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ive shot plenty of foxes at 50 yards within that size. a 22lr has a hell of a lot of power at 50 yards. i use cci stingers and as soon as they hit home. the fox is down. end of Ok pal. a typical kill zone for a fox is 10" x 4" actually. just had a measure up.
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ive shot plenty of foxes at 50 yards within that size. a 22lr has a hell of a lot of power at 50 yards. i use cci stingers and as soon as they hit home. the fox is down. end of
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well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever range you de
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well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever range you de
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there is a big difference between using one and not using one. it does reduce sound but you can never get rid of the bullet crack. i use a reflex t8. on a .222. it does add a lot of weight to the end of your barrel. but i like this as it holds the barrel down when firing and makes it so you can see what you've shot at drop through the scope. there is very little recoil as well + you probably know, but if you dont, you cant buy a moderator unless you have been granted one on your fac, if you have, you will then need your barrel screw cutting, if not done already, then you have to buy a moderato
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the problem is this. when you first put the scope on, the turrets will have been screwed right. meaning when you put the scope on it doesnt leave you room to adjust right. take the scope off. unscrew your turret to half way between left and right. if it doesnt say on it. count the clicks. then mount your scope again. this happened on my schmidt & bender 8x56. but this solved it
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basically in most products today you are paying for the name, such as clothing and things. however with scopes your not. your cheaper scopes are good for air rifles. but when you get upto the bigger calibers such as a .243 there are several requirements. you must have a scope that will resist the recoil and hold zero. i presume you are wanting a 243 for foxes and deer? so you will need a scope with a decent magnification to take the longer shot. if shooting foxes at night, you want a bigger objective to let in more light and you need a crisp clear image. and a reticle you can see. you will get
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i went and bought the German Schmidt & bender 8x56, my mate has the Hungarian version and they are exactly the same. other than one says German and other Hungarian i then wished i had bought the Hungarian and saved money. i wouldn't swap the scope for any other. once i zeroed it in ive never had to adjust it. it has held zero. they are unbelievably clear. especially when lamping at night. i was shocked.
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i would doubt the light gathering proprties are any better..... both scopes are of identical component parts just assembled in different countries. Build quality ? you'll never know any difference except the price, go for the Hungarian atb Alan agreed. i went and bought a german, but my mate owns a hungarian. the low light conditions were identical
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generally well to ensure you maintain them groups and to hit a fox you may need different bullets. my rifle tends to like cci stingers. these are deadly. after you buy new bullets you will need to re zero your rifle. if your after the odd fox for the farmer i would bait the foxes. find a spot that is well camouflaged. i usually use bedroom window but you may have to improvise lol, then set your bait out at a sensible distance, say 50 yards. this way you know that your fox will be in range. i usually use felix cat food. as this brings the foxes in well. the beauty of baiting is that whatever
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i use the vaccuuum cleaner to try get rid of powder. the spray wd40 down it then circle it around to make sure it gets every where inside the baffles then turn on end and stand it on radiator to dry. i do this to my t8. it stops it rusting as wd40 displaces water/moisture, every once in a while i use the brush for my rifle barrel. and give the baffles a good brushing out. Vaccuum cleaner!, that's a good idea. When i put the MOD back on i always wonder if some crap is going to fall back down the barrel, but a vaccuum would soirt that. The LEI is stainless so it's all right on the rust front.
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Totaly agree I am having to change what I do now,everythings shy,I am still catching mind but having to adjust my ways,using all legal methods,at one time you could mop up a couple of litters of cub's in no time,now they are well grown when the emerge from the maize fields,as that's harvested late up here,and pot shotter's cause nothing but problems, . Got talking to one by the side of the road fresh scat by the gate in to the field i said fresh that one lookig at it , he looks strait at me and says lazy b*****ds think they would pick it up , DOG SHITE he THOUGHT IT WAS DOG SHITE Sadly
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depends if foxes are conditioned for your 22. if so, make sure you find a suitable expanding round that groups well through your rifle. Because you are more than likely going to use it on foxes, practice practice and keep practicing on tightening your groups. try shooting at different ranges from about 20 yards out too a hundred. dont attempt a fox unless you are confident your not going to miss
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i use the vaccuuum cleaner to try get rid of powder. the spray wd40 down it then circle it around to make sure it gets every where inside the baffles then turn on end and stand it on radiator to dry. i do this to my t8. it stops it rusting as wd40 displaces water/moisture, every once in a while i use the brush for my rifle barrel. and give the baffles a good brushing out.
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On Saturday night i decided it was time to set off out after Charlie. The weather was just perfect, it was very dark with slight drizzle and a light breeze. It was the night after heavy rain and strong winds. Getting ready i grabbed the 222 out of the cabinet and screwed on the T8 whilst deciding which bullets to use, due to windy conditions i went with the Remington Express 50gr PSP. I grabbed a few calls, snacks and was ready for take off, when all of a sudden my girlfriend insisted she accompanied me. After what felt like 2 hours she was finally ready. When we walked outside the door it was
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its only cheaper if your shooting a substantial amount though? because you have your start up cost, which is really expensive. then cases, primers and powder. so on the cheaper part i think you may just be spending a little more than buying factory ammo. unless your shooting a lot of bullets. however like you say, you can create a load that best suits your rifle, and improve rifle groupings by a significant amount.
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if it iz zero'd at 100 yards bang on and not 1 inch high it will drop maybe 4-5 inch if using 50gr bullets, thats if your barrel is 24 inch. so if your aiming at the centre of your 8x8 target it gives you maybe 3inch drop. so its most likely to miss. no one can tell you the answer as nobody knows any info about your ifle/bullets etc
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personally i think the margin is similar for both, as regards to a 22lr and a centrefire, because with a 22lr you have a very light bullet, if it isnt placed in the exact spots on a fox it can cause suffering, so you need to know your limitations, its similar with small centrefires such as 222's as the bullet is still light but isnt affected as much untill at a longer distance. you also have room for little errors as a centrefire will cause more damage, its all about confidence in yourself at shooting at longer distances, me personally would be happy enough to go drop a fox at 50-60 with a 22l
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glad you find it amusing
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personally i think the margin is similar for both, as regards to a 22lr and a centrefire, because with a 22lr you have a very light bullet, if it isnt placed in the exact spots on a fox it can cause suffering, so you need to know your limitations, its similar with small centrefires such as 222's as the bullet is still light but isnt affected as much untill at a longer distance. you also have room for little errors as a centrefire will cause more damage, its all about confidence in yourself at shooting at longer distances, me personally would be happy enough to go drop a fox at 50-60 with a 22l
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YOU can hit a rabbit head at 50 yds, thats YOU, other people cant. other people dont have that skill, if people dont know the limitations of a 22lr it can cause a fox a lot of suffering, just because you have the ability to shoot a rabbit head at 50 yards doesnt mean the next man can. Thats the issue! some people pick up a rifle and think they can just point and shoot. it doesnt work like that.