Sterry 0 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 20 bore 2 3/4 , 1175 fps , 1 1/8 oz , Nitro magnum 4,s Remington . had the hounds in last week and dropped a vixen stone dead ! at twenty five yards. Didnt even twitch! I think I could have got another ten yards out of it and still stopped the vixen. They are advertised as "Extended range buffered magnums". I'll have a look out for them. i shot two foxes with Eley VIP bismuth no.5 (knowing they are heavier than lead) at about 10/15yrds and gave both vboth barrels to make sure. But not only are they really quite dear (only for ducks). I think no.4 will gove me just that lil bit more "umph" to do the job till i save up for a decent 12bore Side by side ( the only one to use in my opiion) Sorry guy its Cylinder & 1/4 (not 3/4) but still rifled slug is a bit much and shouldnt think you'd fit enough AAA or BB in a 20 with 2 3/4 chambers/. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 20 bore 2 3/4 , 1175 fps , 1 1/8 oz , Nitro magnum 4,s Remington . had the hounds in last week and dropped a vixen stone dead ! at twenty five yards. Didnt even twitch! I think I could have got another ten yards out of it and still stopped the vixen. They are advertised as "Extended range buffered magnums". I'll have a look out for them. i shot two foxes with Eley VIP bismuth no.5 (knowing they are heavier than lead) at about 10/15yrds and gave both vboth barrels to make sure. But not only are they really quite dear (only for ducks). I think no.4 will gove me just that lil bit more "umph" to do the job till i save up for a decent 12bore Side by side ( the only one to use in my opiion) Sorry guy its Cylinder & 1/4 (not 3/4) but still rifled slug is a bit much and shouldnt think you'd fit enough AAA or BB in a 20 with 2 3/4 chambers/. Bismuth is lighter and more brittle than Lead In a 20 bore with 2 3/4" chambers, you are likely to put 32gr through it maximum. Which when dealing with large BB, No.1 or No.3 shot is not a lot You can't have a rifled slug put through a shotgun on a Shotgun Certificate anyway. You need a separate condition on your FAC and the shotgun they are going to be put through also has to be on your FAC be it a S/S, O/U, Auto or Pump. 32gr of No.4 out of a 1/4 choke is going to be a fairly open pattern, so keep the range close, 20 yards i'd say. SS Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 20 bore 2 3/4 , 1175 fps , 1 1/8 oz , Nitro magnum 4,s Remington . had the hounds in last week and dropped a vixen stone dead ! at twenty five yards. Didnt even twitch! I think I could have got another ten yards out of it and still stopped the vixen. They are advertised as "Extended range buffered magnums". I'll have a look out for them. i shot two foxes with Eley VIP bismuth no.5 (knowing they are heavier than lead) at about 10/15yrds and gave both vboth barrels to make sure. But not only are they really quite dear (only for ducks). I think no.4 will gove me just that lil bit more "umph" to do the job till i save up for a decent 12bore Side by side ( the only one to use in my opiion) Sorry guy its Cylinder & 1/4 (not 3/4) but still rifled slug is a bit much and shouldnt think you'd fit enough AAA or BB in a 20 with 2 3/4 chambers/. Bismuth is lighter and more brittle than Lead In a 20 bore with 2 3/4" chambers, you are likely to put 32gr through it maximum. Which when dealing with large BB, No.1 or No.3 shot is not a lot You can't have a rifled slug put through a shotgun on a Shotgun Certificate anyway. You need a separate condition on your FAC and the shotgun they are going to be put through also has to be on your FAC be it a S/S, O/U, Auto or Pump. 32gr of No.4 out of a 1/4 choke is going to be a fairly open pattern, so keep the range close, 20 yards i'd say. SS Would it be ok to put a full and 1/2 choke in the barrels or would this be a bit dangerous ? Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 20 bore 2 3/4 , 1175 fps , 1 1/8 oz , Nitro magnum 4,s Remington . had the hounds in last week and dropped a vixen stone dead ! at twenty five yards. Didnt even twitch! I think I could have got another ten yards out of it and still stopped the vixen. They are advertised as "Extended range buffered magnums". I'll have a look out for them. i shot two foxes with Eley VIP bismuth no.5 (knowing they are heavier than lead) at about 10/15yrds and gave both vboth barrels to make sure. But not only are they really quite dear (only for ducks). I think no.4 will gove me just that lil bit more "umph" to do the job till i save up for a decent 12bore Side by side ( the only one to use in my opiion) Sorry guy its Cylinder & 1/4 (not 3/4) but still rifled slug is a bit much and shouldnt think you'd fit enough AAA or BB in a 20 with 2 3/4 chambers/. Bismuth is lighter and more brittle than Lead In a 20 bore with 2 3/4" chambers, you are likely to put 32gr through it maximum. Which when dealing with large BB, No.1 or No.3 shot is not a lot You can't have a rifled slug put through a shotgun on a Shotgun Certificate anyway. You need a separate condition on your FAC and the shotgun they are going to be put through also has to be on your FAC be it a S/S, O/U, Auto or Pump. 32gr of No.4 out of a 1/4 choke is going to be a fairly open pattern, so keep the range close, 20 yards i'd say. SS Would it be ok to put a full and 1/2 choke in the barrels or would this be a bit dangerous ? Perfectly safe Quote Link to post
Sterry 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Bismuth is heavier than lead but i think some alloy it with tin but would only be bit lighter if any. i'll have a look for those remmy ones. cheers lads. on the 12 bore front having a look at AYA yeoman SBS Double trigger 28" with improved cylinder 1/4 choke. should be all systems go when i stop being "redundant" and get another job. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Bismuth is heavier than lead but i think some alloy it with tin but would only be bit lighter if any. i'll have a look for those remmy ones. cheers lads. on the 12 bore front having a look at AYA yeoman SBS Double trigger 28" with improved cylinder 1/4 choke. should be all systems go when i stop being "redundant" and get another job. Bismuth alone has a higher density than Lead but Bismuth shot is an alloy with Tin. Lead shot is 11.3 g/cm2 whereas Bismuth shot is 9.6 g/cm2. Most Bismuth shot, produced by Eley in the UK has a content of 97% Bismuth and 3% Tin Quote Link to post
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