john b 38 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 No not quite. But the law is very subtle. Shooting pigeons over stubbles is OK because large flocks of pigeon on farmland cannot be controlled by other means. The licence states Persons relying on this licence must be satisfied that non-lethal methods of resolving the problem are ineffective or impracticable. and it is reasonable to assume that pigeon on stubble today are on crops tomorrow. Crows will cause no end of damage to livestock and straw bales etc and again scaring them off is not a long term practical option. The issue here is not that you can't shoot / trap crows, it's that you can't shoot them because they're damaging a car. The same law means that you can't go out and shoot a pigeon for the pot. But you can eat it after you've shot it for a reason permitted under the license. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Licence to kill or take certain birds to preserve public health or public safety WML Gen-L07 I would suggest this one would be more applicable and could cover your damage to wiper blades. You may be right, but again we have : Persons relying on this licence must be satisfied that non-lethal methods of resolving the problem are ineffective or impracticable This is not a dig at Andy - it's in danger looking like one so let me make that clear. However it is an important point that anyone taking or killing birds under the general licences MUST have decided which one applies to the circumstances at the time and satisfied themselves that they are complyin with it. Quote Link to post
andybrock 2 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 No not quite. But the law is very subtle. Shooting pigeons over stubbles is OK because large flocks of pigeon on farmland cannot be controlled by other means. The licence states Persons relying on this licence must be satisfied that non-lethal methods of resolving the problem are ineffective or impracticable. and it is reasonable to assume that pigeon on stubble today are on crops tomorrow. Crows will cause no end of damage to livestock and straw bales etc and again scaring them off is not a long term practical option. The issue here is not that you can't shoot / trap crows, it's that you can't shoot them because they're damaging a car. The same law means that you can't go out and shoot a pigeon for the pot. But you can eat it after you've shot it for a reason permitted under the license. Thanks John, So how would I resole this problem and keep within the law, without telling my customer to build a garage!! Quote Link to post
zig zag wanderer 0 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 It may well be that non-lethal methods would be ineffective or impracticable in this case. That is a decision that you have to make after an assessment of the situation and the various control options available to you. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Absolutely. And ofcourse any other issues they may be causing. Quote Link to post
andybrock 2 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 It may well be that non-lethal methods would be ineffective or impracticable in this case. That is a decision that you have to make after an assessment of the situation and the various control options available to you. Thanks for the advise Zig zag Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I know the law's the law, but it's an ass. The law to do with pest control is so full of inconsistencies. You are allowed to cull, deer if they are causing damage, but you're not allowed to shoot crows for the same reason. You can dig a fox to protect game birds that are to be shot, but you're not allowed to dig to foxes to protect livestock that's part of the food chain. A pest is a pest at the end of the day. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I know the law's the law, but it's an ass. The law to do with pest control is so full of inconsistencies. You are allowed to cull, deer if they are causing damage, but you're not allowed to shoot crows for the same reason. You can dig a fox to protect game birds that are to be shot, but you're not allowed to dig to foxes to protect livestock that's part of the food chain. A pest is a pest at the end of the day. Just a thought! I'm sure the resident songbird population in your area would be better off if a few of those same crows were culled. WML Gen-LO8: Licence to kill or take certain birds to conserve wild birds Quote Link to post
andybrock 2 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I know the law's the law, but it's an ass. The law to do with pest control is so full of inconsistencies. You are allowed to cull, deer if they are causing damage, but you're not allowed to shoot crows for the same reason. You can dig a fox to protect game birds that are to be shot, but you're not allowed to dig to foxes to protect livestock that's part of the food chain. A pest is a pest at the end of the day. Just a thought! I'm sure the resident songbird population in your area would be better off if a few of those same crows were culled. WML Gen-LO8: Licence to kill or take certain birds to conserve wild birds Thanks Maltenby, Fortunatly I'm friends with the farmer who's land borders this house and he's seen these crows attacking his newly born lambs ( which are due towards the end of next week!!!) so maybe between us all the crows fate has been sealed. Quote Link to post
zig zag wanderer 0 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Where there's a will, there's a way Quote Link to post
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