DIGZY 4 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 could someone please explain to me why saluki crosses and pure breds get so much bad press bye people. Some people call the saluki the dumb blond ?? and no stupid answers genuine question so qenuine answers please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn 314 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 could someone please explain to me why saluki crosses and pure breds get so much bad press bye people. Some people call the saluki the dumb blond ?? and no stupid answers genuine question so qenuine answers please Your told this Because In their Opinion they are thick!!! , THEY dont obviously dont Know them as good as they Should ! Class , Pures and Crosses. who, but they can act and Think as quick when they were pre ban coursing. and WHY were they chose FOR SUCH .? I have seen Sal/ crosses REALLY Using their brains it galls me to here them called THICK !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lampinglurcher 36 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 i personally really like salukis and their x's but i think their bad press aint because they're thick but more because people see their aloofness and sometimes flightiness as lacking intelligence - clearly they've never seen one predict a turn when coursing and turn as sson as their quarry does. just my two pence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIGZY 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 could someone please explain to me why saluki crosses and pure breds get so much bad press bye people. Some people call the saluki the dumb blond ?? and no stupid answers genuine question so qenuine answers please Your told this Because In their Opinion they are thick!!! , THEY dont obviously dont Know them as good as they Should ! Class , Pures and Crosses. who, but they can act and Think as quick when they were pre ban coursing. and WHY were they chose FOR SUCH .? I have seen Sal/ crosses REALLY Using their brains it galls me to here them called THICK !! I couldnt agree more, our salukis are very intelligent, and I was astonished by a remark made by my old vet once who commented on the narrow shape of the typical saluki head and added 'thats why they are so stupid,...........there isn't enough room for any brains in there!' I have heard, that some (NOT ALL) of the shown lines of saluki, bred purely for looks etc, are not as sharpe and intelligent as some of the other lines of salukis, but I guess that happens in most breeds. thats a nice saluki mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 ive kept lurchers for 40 yrs and experienced all types of crosses in my experience the saluki and saluki crosses are the most intelligent dogs ive ever kept.people dont realise the intense prey drive these animals possess and misinterpret this as being dull theyre eyesight is phenominal . they can spot things like birds moving in grass from hundreds of yards away couple this with the prey drive intensity in them and nothing will break that determination all the screaming and shouting in the world wont stop them . but if you are capable of harnessing these qualities and bringing out the best of these attributes in these dogs you will have a world beater in your yard . look at the way they work a strong hare in the winter . any old crossbred can kill hares in the summertime and stubble . but it takes a special dog to kill consistantly in the winter and its only salukis and cross bred salukis that can do this and it takes brains and determination ie the prey drive to do this they can be frustrating in the early stages because you wont rush them or bully them into doing things but once the penny drops they are awsome animals what ever your game weather its lamping ferreting coursing foxing or bigger stuff . theyre timing with the strike is the same its usually only the onece not repetitively .again this is an indication of intelligence how they get in behind settle there line it up and up with it . they are unique in the way they can course a strong hare not being thrown out by him but sitting in behind him anticipating every move he makes boxing him of cover sitting back of him when theyve broken him from the cover and then drawing back to him when they have to and then having a go at him only a dog of high intelligence can do this . a lot of people who give negative comments about salukis and saluki crosses really have had very limited experience of them but once youve had experience of a good un nothing else quite measures up after theres very good animals out there dont get me wrong . but the saluki tends to bring a little bit more to the table Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Great post Brookie - thoroughly enjoyed that Im the first to admit I dont think I could handle a pure they are beuatiful animals and I admire the stamina and coursing sense they posess, but Im a rush, rush, heavy handed, bossy type of trainer who would never have the patience for an aloof dog. So I watch on as others do have success with them and wish them well You certainly do need saluki in a coursing dog, up here we like about 1/4 or 1/8 as its smaller fields and we want dogs that can kill them fast but also stick on when they need to, but without a doubt there is no other sighthound breed that adds the attributes that the saluki does Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDF 0 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 i had a little salukixwhippet/grey once that wasn't a lot of use,being a young stupid boy i blamed the saluki blood rather than myself. 2 yrs ago and 20 years later i took on a pup,saluki/greyxirish terrier/grey.....starting to look like the smartest thing i've done in a long while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) Different types of dog require different types of training perhaps? Spot on........... Brookie........what a brilliant post, I really enjoyed that. Edited October 9, 2008 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 You mean they have a tendancy to go and sulk in the corner dont you..........yep, they certainly do I will admit to getting heavy handed once or twice with my sal x types........what a fecking mistake, it just fecks the dog up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIGZY 4 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I spoke about being FIRM with a dog once and got my head bitten off by loads of members Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Millet, I know better now mate........its a complete waste of time with em. IMHO, most Lurchers dont respond well to any type of "force" training.......ya just have to go about it differently. If you treated a lurcher, especially a Saluki type like some folks treat gundogs you would just metally destroy the dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIGZY 4 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 agree with youse most types of lurchers dont take well to being firm with them much better to just keep calm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meerihunter 7 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) There is not much I can add, after your post Brookie. I will say that not all Salukis are nervous types. My rescued male is a bit of a sap to be honest and there is a fine line being firm with him. My bitch and the pup bred out her are bold as brass despite being me being very firm with them (I started out with gundogs). They will come back and 'face the music' and accept discipline and be full of appology, unlike some of our lurchers which will simply keep out of your way and not accept it and not give any appology. Edited October 9, 2008 by Meerihunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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