Question For Netrigger And Tc

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

ime makeing a net from a load of left overs (more to stave off Boredom than any thing else!) its got a number 2 leadline 5ince mesh and its about 4ft deep its ment to be a tangle net kinda thing for flatfish skate/turbot and plaice. now the question is will 14mm rope have enough boyency to hold the net high enugh to fish just off bottom? or should i put a small 2oz float every 15ft? also its danish rigged and is 3 set back to one

[Tiercel 6,986]

When I made ray nets they were rigged with a 6mm double polypropylene head rope. But they were fished on neap tides where there was hardly any run of tide. I take it you will be fishing it off the beach. If so just use the wash balls and stays on the up tide side of the net one about every 15 to 20 yards would be enough to keep the bag open.

 

The problem is when it comes to fixed nets it all depends what the run of tide is in your area. on the 8 metre + tides here you have mooring buoys being dragged under so trying to guage what amount of bouyancy is needed in your area is near on impossible. I'm afraid it's a suck it and see scenario.

 

TC

Edited August 8, 2013 by tiercel

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

ive put a 2oz flot every 15ft and it will be set parallel to the beach (along the shore line) like all my turbot nets are so this should help with the tides like i said its made up of left overs from other nets so its no great loss if its not very good. how did you find the big mesh nest made for skate, did they catch many turbot?

[netrigger 610]

Many years ago I was very busy rigging sole/plaice nets and they were very successful so I was told. The standard Rig was a Braided 6mm head rope with a number 2 lead line , threaded through the bottom meshes. The other style of rig was 8mm head rope with a 1oz Float every Fathom with a number 3 lead line again threaded through the bottom meshes.

Regards.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Funnily enough no, we caught very few turbot with them, as this area has a few on the Helwick bank but they only run to a pound or so. At the begining of the year Feb March we would catch Ray, the odd big Cod, and oddly enough small codling that would be caught by the teeth on the knots. big Angler fish, big Flounders 3lb plus after spawning, and depending on the type of ground lobsters and crab. We usually fished in water over 300ft deep in the early months.

 

Once the gulf stream arrived and with it the bulk of the ray we would then fish relativly shollow waters anything from 30 to 40 ft up up to 100ft Plenty of variety then but still no turbot.

 

TC

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

odd that tc as 12inch nets are often sold as turbot tangle nets i have often thort a short 6-7inch multi with lots of bag would be a good net for them, but i also us we catch a lot infact its one of the species i/we target most. most tides i would get 3 fish per 100m of trammel and its more often more rather than less, and around the 1-3kg each with the odd monster of 12-16lb showing up! i use two 4-5ft deep 5inch net of around 100m each and when set parallel to the surf the turbot are just sitting up against them on the shore side not even tangles up just sat up agains them, and a lot are lost of you try and walk dawn the net, patience is the best thing and wait until their high and dry and they will be sat in the bag, but as ever a good trammel is the way forward!

 

i can remember last year i had 30kg of turbot from 2 nets in 3 tides and whilst walking down the trammel in water maybe 14inch deep and i could see a small bit of the float line was down so i picked it up thinking it would be a well bagged up 3 pounder and as i lifted the net the head of a turbot of what must have been 20lb came up seen me then turned with a tail about 6-8 inch wide, and took off down the net with a bow wave bumped into the net twice before going around the end and away

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

Funnily enough no, we caught very few turbot with them, as this area has a few on the Helwick bank but they only run to a pound or so. At the begining of the year Feb March we would catch Ray, the odd big Cod, and oddly enough small codling that would be caught by the teeth on the knots. big Angler fish, big Flounders 3lb plus after spawning, and depending on the type of ground lobsters and crab. We usually fished in water over 300ft deep in the early months.

 

Once the gulf stream arrived and with it the bulk of the ray we would then fish relativly shollow waters anything from 30 to 40 ft up up to 100ft Plenty of variety then but still no turbot.

 

TC

what time of year did the numbers show up TC, we cant give em away when we get numers but then we only get them in patches with no real pattern to them, we get around £1 a kg for them at best!

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

Many years ago I was very busy rigging sole/plaice nets and they were very successful so I was told. The standard Rig was a Braided 6mm head rope with a number 2 lead line , threaded through the bottom meshes. The other style of rig was 8mm head rope with a 1oz Float every Fathom with a number 3 lead line again threaded through the bottom meshes.

Regards.

thats the kinda rig i was thinking, i think the braided rope floats better than the twisted stuff the only thing with it is you cant splice it unless you are realy good! was that 5inch 0.35 you were useing or the 5 1/2 inch?

 

P.S if you two get fed up of answering net questions just say lol

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

odd that tc as 12inch nets are often sold as turbot tangle nets i have often thort a short 6-7inch multi with lots of bag would be a good net for them, i catch a lot infact its one of the species i/we target most. most tides i would get 3 fish per 100m of trammel and its more often more rather than less, and around the 1-3kg each with the odd monster of 12-16lb showing up! i use two 4-5ft deep 5inch net of around 100m each and when set parallel to the surf the turbot are just sitting up against them on the shore side not even tangles up just sat up agains them, and a lot are lost of you try and walk dawn the net, patience is the best thing and wait until their high and dry and they will be sat in the bag, but as ever a good trammel is the way forward!

 

i can remember last year i had 30kg of turbot from 2 nets in 3 tides and whilst walking down the trammel in water maybe 14inch deep and i could see a small bit of the float line was down so i picked it up thinking it would be a well bagged up 3 pounder and as i lifted the net the head of a turbot of what must have been 20lb came up seen me then turned with a tail about 6-8 inch wide, and took off down the net with a bow wave bumped into the net twice before going around the end and away

[netrigger 610]

 

Many years ago I was very busy rigging sole/plaice nets and they were very successful so I was told. The standard Rig was a Braided 6mm head rope with a number 2 lead line , threaded through the bottom meshes. The other style of rig was 8mm head rope with a 1oz Float every Fathom with a number 3 lead line again threaded through the bottom meshes.

Regards.

thats the kinda rig i was thinking, i think the braided rope floats better than the twisted stuff the only thing with it is you cant splice it unless you are realy good! was that 5inch 0.35 you were useing or the 5 1/2 inch?

 

P.S if you two get fed up of answering net questions just say lol

 

Think the most popular size was the 5" x 15 md in 0.40 mono though I also rigged plenty in multi 0.5 x 8 which were also 15 md .. I have never tried to splice the Braid as I aint got the Fids,, or the Patience . all I ever done and it works just fine is to melt the ends and form into a point, then insert the melted end into the core of the Braid as one would do when a splice is used on say long net lines.. Works just fine ...

Regards...

[netrigger 610]

These are a great invention ,, the net rope lockers .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwT2Lr6gZT0&list=UUTx86DGNtc89NFOGCCtWwvA

 

the gear suppliers should have them in stock at a couple of Quidd each..

Regards..

Edited August 10, 2013 by netrigger

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

thats what i do bill, just like longnet lines but i put a couple of clove hitches in on it with rigging twine just to make shure. i did ave loads of shrink tubeing and that looked the mutts nuts on nets but its all gone now and ime to tight to buy any more