why is this country always quick to condem itself

[Ideation 8,217]

I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case"

 

diffrent war altogether.the ira in there hey day wouldnt have done what those c**ts did.even though i despise them and what they did,im sure even a commited irishman would have said thats to far!i mean if an attack like 9/11 happened here.also the ira would have had no chance of getting thier hands on a dirty bomb,and even if they did i dont think they would use it.when that kind of attack is threatning,i would give them carte blanche on stopping it.blowing up planes and trying thier hardest to get thier hands on plutonium and other nasty stuff,that could affect this country and the WORLD for decades if they pulled it of.

 

To be honest scott, i just think the paddys were firstly a bit fecking useless, and a bit of a joke, and secondly, too busy battering each other to do something as 'big' as 9/11. They also didn't have, quite as much help from the U.S, although they did have a bit.

[scothunter 12,609]

so we do nothing and hope its not a major incident,have a remeberance day every year and bend over and take it up the arse,cause god forbid we upset the minorities and muslims.

[blan89 159]

so we do nothing and hope its not a major incident,have a remeberance day every year and bend over and take it up the arse,cause god forbid we upset the minorities and muslims.

 

Or we could just leave them alone,stop interfering with backwards countries and just not give them a reason to want to attack us.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

[Ideation 8,217]

so we do nothing and hope its not a major incident,have a remeberance day every year and bend over and take it up the arse,cause god forbid we upset the minorities and muslims.

 

I'm not sure the two options are "do nothing" and "torture anyone who may have any idea what's going on, even if it's just cos they are the same color as the bad guys". . . . . . .

 

You know me mate, i'd happily torture someone if i thought it was going to achieve something, but unfortunatly i just don't have one iota of faith in our government getting owt right.

 

At the end of the day they don't give a f**k about those civilians who died, they just want the oil, money, votes and power, and by crucifying the odd person for crossing the line, while torturing a load more secretly they kind of pander to both sides.

 

At the end of the day it's a slippery slops, and we don't want to end up like the chinese, where if you argue with the government you 'dissapear', cos if that was the case, this thread would probably be enough to get your door put through by some wee angry men and bamboo stuck up your japs eye.

[scothunter 12,609]

I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case"

 

diffrent war altogether.the ira in there hey day wouldnt have done what those c**ts did.even though i despise them and what they did,im sure even a commited irishman would have said thats to far!i mean if an attack like 9/11 happened here.also the ira would have had no chance of getting thier hands on a dirty bomb,and even if they did i dont think they would use it.when that kind of attack is threatning,i would give them carte blanche on stopping it.blowing up planes and trying thier hardest to get thier hands on plutonium and other nasty stuff,that could affect this country and the WORLD for decades if they pulled it of.

 

To be honest scott, i just think the paddys were firstly a bit fecking useless, and a bit of a joke, and secondly, too busy battering each other to do something as 'big' as 9/11. They also didn't have, quite as much help from the U.S, although they did have a bit.

 

i dont like the ira but i wouldnt say they were a joke jai.quite the opposite.they were very organised,and pulled of some major coups in this country and the north.one of the top of my head was mortaring downing street in broad daylight.not to mention brighton.warrenpoint, and a whole load of other attrocities,but even them would draw the line at mass murder if they got the chance.f**k they even managed to whack a missle through thames house

[scothunter 12,609]

so we do nothing and hope its not a major incident,have a remeberance day every year and bend over and take it up the arse,cause god forbid we upset the minorities and muslims.

 

I'm not sure the two options are "do nothing" and "torture anyone who may have any idea what's going on, even if it's just cos they are the same color as the bad guys". . . . . . .

 

You know me mate, i'd happily torture someone if i thought it was going to achieve something, but unfortunatly i just don't have one iota of faith in our government getting owt right.

 

At the end of the day they don't give a f**k about those civilians who died, they just want the oil, money, votes and power, and by crucifying the odd person for crossing the line, while torturing a load more secretly they kind of pander to both sides.

 

At the end of the day it's a slippery slops, and we don't want to end up like the chinese, where if you argue with the government you 'dissapear', cos if that was the case, this thread would probably be enough to get your door put through by some wee angry men and bamboo stuck up your japs eye.

 

lol

[Ideation 8,217]

I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case"

 

diffrent war altogether.the ira in there hey day wouldnt have done what those c**ts did.even though i despise them and what they did,im sure even a commited irishman would have said thats to far!i mean if an attack like 9/11 happened here.also the ira would have had no chance of getting thier hands on a dirty bomb,and even if they did i dont think they would use it.when that kind of attack is threatning,i would give them carte blanche on stopping it.blowing up planes and trying thier hardest to get thier hands on plutonium and other nasty stuff,that could affect this country and the WORLD for decades if they pulled it of.

 

To be honest scott, i just think the paddys were firstly a bit fecking useless, and a bit of a joke, and secondly, too busy battering each other to do something as 'big' as 9/11. They also didn't have, quite as much help from the U.S, although they did have a bit.

 

i dont like the ira but i wouldnt say they were a joke jai.quite the opposite.they were very organised,and pulled of some major coups in this country and the north.one of the top of my head was mortaring downing street in broad daylight.not to mention brighton.warrenpoint, and a whole load of other attrocities,but even them would draw the line at mass murder if they got the chance.f**k they even managed to whack a missle through thames house

 

AYe, they did some serious shit, i just meant on an organisational level, they were not a patch on some of these more organised muslim groups. Osama and his lot, or the afghans (f**k all to do with Osama) would have eaten them alive.

 

I really dont think they would draw the line at mass murder, although i suppose they did call in warnings, so maybe i'm wrong. . . .

 

What gets me is this idea that it's whites vs non whites, christians vs muslims etc, when it's just a reletivly small minority.

 

As for this iraqi dude, they had sweet f**k all to do with 9/11, same with afghan, those two countries and the conflicts in them are not really anything to do with 9/11, terrorists, or world security, but our gov is willing to sacrifice a shit ton of our soldiers and bankrupt the country to fight those wars?

 

I mean, when was the last time and afghan or iraqi "terrorist" did anything to us, outside of their own country. . . .?

 

Saudis and Egyptians yes. . . . . .Iraqis and afghans no. . . . .

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IT ain't about minorities,muslims.It's all about who controls Minerals and Oil,Take one groups Rights away ,then we all can be lifted and tortured,but it will be alright because the GOV.will Deny It

We're in bed with the Saudia Arabians,they could stop most of it if they wanted to !,but it helps their Power Base in the Mid East ...

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

although i suppose they did call in warnings, so maybe i'm wrong. . . .

 

Yes they did, the dirty murdering cowards.

 

And sometimes planted a second bigger bomb on the evacuation route.

[scothunter 12,609]

IT ain't about minorities,muslims.It's all about who controls Minerals and Oil,Take one groups Rights away ,then we all can be lifted and tortured,but it will be alright because the GOV.will Deny It

We're in bed with the Saudia Arabians,they could stop most of it if they wanted to !,but it helps their Power Base in the Mid East ...

 

the saudis couldnt stop it lol f**k the terrorists hate them as much as they do us.also no one is denying it isnt about oil.but its way past that stage now.

[scothunter 12,609]

im talking IF they got thier hands on a wmd those arab terrorists would do it in a heartbeat,even if it killed thousands of thier own and themselfs.so anything we do to stop this is ok with me

[dixiebop 125]

IT ain't about minorities,muslims.It's all about who controls Minerals and Oil,Take one groups Rights away ,then we all can be lifted and tortured,but it will be alright because the GOV.will Deny It

We're in bed with the Saudia Arabians,they could stop most of it if they wanted to !,but it helps their Power Base in the Mid East ...

 

the saudis couldnt stop it lol f**k the terrorists hate them as much as they do us.also no one is denying it isnt about oil.but its way past that stage now.

 

On the Eve of 9/11,The Bombers were nearly all Saudia,It is the Wahabi sect of Muslims and their teachings thats' stirring up your "ETHNICS" and they hate the Saudias'THEY F%^&&ING FINANCE THEM ! its' a means to destable the Mid East ,they get to call the shots. Nasser tried it an won ! the CIA do it everywhere the USA has an Interest, from IRELAND to the BALKANS :blink: IF THE USA wasn't in hawlk to them they would have made a move on them,Bin laden Saudi ?Half the Royal Family were let out of the USA whilst their air space was shut down

[scothunter 12,609]

oh dixie you dont half like stating the obvious.yes some saudis finance al queda,but the ruling royals of saudi are hated by bin laden and the rest of that murdering filth.

[Ideation 8,217]

It's a funny world we live in, we do a lot of f****d u stuff, arm some dodgy fuckers and then get very upset when said dodgy fuckers kill a couple of thousand folk in America, most likely with the help (or blind eye) of certain American fuckers, then the USA fuckers, invade some other unrelated fuckers in Iraq and it leads to the death of over 100,000 of the poor civilian fuckers there, and then a few of our fuckers in uniform batter a poor innocent f****r, cos he might know about some fuckers who might plant a bomb to kill the fuckers (us ) who wouldnt and (shouldnt) even be there in the first place if it was not for aforementioned american fuckers.

 

So basicly i blame f*****g america, as the muslims didn't bother us at all until them fuckers started arming mad, gun obsessed, nationalist, fuckers right left and center in order to beat the commie fuckers down.

 

Ya get me fuckers?

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p.s - Scott, why is it ok for us and the yanks to be 'murdering filth' but not bin laden and his cronies? I mean we were well up for any murdering to be done as long as it wasn't us getting murdered right?