Fox snares

[heritage 202]

Hi all, recently ive been looking into breakaways....ive studied the american offerings and really like the look of the amberg type. Resembling an aliminium stop they seem very tidy,they can be applied with the special hand crimp tool and release at a constant poundage everytime,but due to the american target species generally being much larger than our own i feel the "break away" pressure is way too high for use on fox snares in the uk...the amburgs release at approx 270lb....so this brings me on to my question,one for the experienced snaremen amongst us.Ive become curious about the glen waters design,the type that is manufactured and sold by trapworks...,Can anyone tell me the approx force required to open up a breakaway of this type and what type of pressure would the average sized fox exert when correctly snared ? atb HERITAGE

[IanB 0]

Not sure as to the pressure exerted by the average fox, but the americans use there breakaways to release the likes of deer and livestock that are caught around the foot/leg, mainy times its been openly states that kneck caught animals eg a deer the breakaway would not release, so snare location must be considered... They have many types of breakaways and have done for decades, different states have different laws regarding there use over there also... Some use breakaway cam locks, by removing the pin and replacing with a brass paper clip the type you bend back on itself like a split pin...Theres that many options you could use...

 

I'm sure you will knock something up heritage... You can get tools to measure pressure exertion, just put it to the test.

[heritage 202]

Thanks for the reply im not a huge fan of breakaway devices if im totally honest but its something i decided to look into as its only a matter of time before the inevitable happens in the uk.....ive looked into the release ferrules, the s-hooks and the break away locks (all out of curiosity) and i was attempting to find a release/breakaway device that operated within a tighter tolerance and was suitable for use on our own wires.., now heres the boring bit....it seems as though the release ferrules operate more consistently than others due to there inner hole diamater, on checking the amount of contact that the crimped ferrule has around the wire it seems as though the release weight/breakaway weight comes from the correctly crimped ferrule with the relevant inner hole dia being crimped onto the correct sized diamater wire....hopes that makes sense ? so.....in theory a ferrule with a larger inner hole size would not be crimped as well due to the lack of contact around the wires circumfrence,this would result in a lower "give" as regards the operation of a breakaway so in effect would it not be possible (through trial and error) to re-drill the ferrules hole to a larger size there by lowering the amount of purchase they have on the wire wich would, in turn lower the breakaway point ? not the best explanation im afraid but im possitive its something that would work...atb