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first , i am german and its stupid to say that germans breed dogs for multitalent !

the shepard was only bred for herding sheep and the doberman was bred as a watchdog for the people that turn the lights on at night at that time ...that they became multitalentet ...just a selection after the time the were createt !

the german jagd was first also bred for the earthwork and became a multitalent ! there are smal lines , big lines ...whatever you want for a type lines out there ! most older hunters use them for flushing the wildboars to the guns , for bloodtracking , for retrieving and much more , and they do it as well as the other breeds that are specially bred for the jobs ! the are hardly tested in big tests on that as well as health tests ! a not fit terrier will not get the chance to be bred of !

the right dog for the right job ! you want one for digging get one of a digging line , a smaller line that is not used for the boars , only for digging ! search for them more in the east of germany or the south as they are more into digging there with jagds ! maybe here in the nrw area a a good handfull of breeders for digging jagds but not as much as in eastern ! also norway and sweden have first class jagds as digging dogs ! i think most of you only saw pics or vids from thoose stupid trials from the jugoslavian areas with the badger and foxbaitings in thoose wooden dens ! for sure the germans also have tests like that , but far better , but the are only to test the dog´s before the natural dens and both will be written down in the papers of each dog !

the german jagd is a multitalented earthdog wich a very high preydrive that can hunt below and above ground ! the problem for you to get a good earthdog is , not the dogs , ....the hunters ! you will not get a good dog from a old or good german hunter ! they don´t want their dogs in anyone hands and definatly not in foreiner hands !

don´t misunderstood me , as erik and i are digging mates and we using patts ! for me the patterdale was the better option as they are also quiet in an arpartment ...the jagd not , through the high preydrive they are much to crazy for an arpartment ! so i would say they are good ones and bad ones aswell as in patt´s and any other terrierbreed !

 

 

at least some of us don't stereo type a breed " having seen a dog/heard of a dog" or otherwise not having a bloody clue.

a good reply here mate.

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the fact that you have a dog thats breed for that shows a complete lack of competent shooting, a dog would need to experience it a dozen times atleast before it got the picture, so there must be more then old men with porely placed shots, no wonder the dogs arnt widly used here

 

I'm quite confident that swedish and german hunters on an average are not worse than any other nationality at shooting. But we do have stringent laws on hunting and wild life. I don't know about other countries but here in Sweden the law states that we must be able to a have a dog trained for tracking in place not more than two hours after an animal has gone missing after being shot at. We also have to do everything we can to make sure an animal has not been wounded and is suffering after being shoot at and cannot be found. The police also often contact hunters to trail wounded animals (mostly moose and boar) after traffic accidents.

 

And as Steezy points out; Jagds are bred for different purposes. There is a german saying that goes something like "Big ones for sows, small ones for fox". When tested if suited for earthwork Jagds have to pass the same tests (in a man made den) as all other working terriers except for, lying down, passing a 13x17 centimeter (30 centimeter long) "tunnel". I don't know why there is an exception, mine passes that and smaller... =) The Jagdterrier should also retrive game from under ground to pass the "full hunting test".

 

If you do some googling for "Bayrischer Gebiergsschweisshund" and "Hannoverscher Schweisshund" (I don't know the english name.) you can read about two german breeds that are higly specialised in tracking and bringing wounded game down.

 

//Ronny

 

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I am a big fan off the working jagd terrier, i think tey make great working/digging dogs but they are horribel pets! When you dont work them they get crazy and even when you do work them they are crazy, there are a lot of human agressive jagd terriers. you cant keep them as a pet, if they dont work they will attack every thing.

The jagd off my father in law got a duck when i was walking it at the age of 10 weeks every living animal wasnt save when she took off,she is 11 now but still crazy.

The one he got before here would bite a piece out of each fox they never got away, he even bit a leg off a german sheperd one day.

hegot his whole nose off butt kept working and got the badger, but didnt make it,they can be to hard. Thats why eriks says the are exspensive :)

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I wouldn't call them "horrible pets". They're actually quite OK as pets, as long as they get exercised regularly and activated. Othervise they get restless, some even a bit anoying I've heard... =) During the hunting season, when I usually hunt once or twice a week, he is like most dogs, lying around, just keeping an eye on us and what we are up to.

 

He is also often with me at work and when indoors he's mostly running loose and there is never any problem with strangers coming and leaving. He's also fine with most dogs, but prefers to play with bigger breeds.The bigger the better.

 

Outdoors is a different story. He'll take off after any cat, roe, hare, fox (you name it) hiding in the bushes, so I must keep him on a lead all the time. Otherwise we would soon be very impopular among our cat owning neighbours.

 

I'd say Jagdterriers are not dogs for every one, but definitely not horrible. And they are never boring! =D But if you are not hunting/working them there are definitely breeds that are easier to please. And as Staffordshire points out; some can be extremely hard. Those that are tend to become a bit expensive if worked under ground...

 

//Ronny

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I haven't ever seen a better all rounder than the jagdterrier. I have imported them from nearly everywhere. Some are better feild dogs. But some are pure digging dogs. They will find fit and stay long enough to get you to praying. There are lines of NLT that are unbelievably hard. I hunt everything that moves. I have never seen another breed more perfectly suited for the type of hunting that I do. I free cast dogs. Once given the command to hunt they have to find, track, and/ or hold game until I can get there and dispatch it. I hunt boar with jagds. I use no more than two at a time. My dogs will retrieve game to hand, or hold it untill dug to. I often hunt in very dry climates. I need a dog that will find game year round. I have seen some that were great untill it got hot, and then they would stand on their heads. But I have some from a man in Slovakia that can move a track even in the worst of conditions. The blood tracking is extremely usefull to bow hunters here. The jagd can hang with the best blood tracking dogs that we have stateside. They can also hang with the best retrievers, Mine will retrieve from water or land all day long. I wouldn't trade them for a pack of black mouth curs for hunting hogs. They have too many advantages over the bigger dogs. They are not the best dog in every situation. But for me they are the right dog in most situations. I don't know much about your fells. But I will tell you that I have seen jagds do everything that my friends that do hunt fells say their dogs do. But like any dog I have seen junk too, and if I were after a pet, I would take a swift kick in the @$$ before choosing one of these devils. I hunt nearly every day and they work for what I do.

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