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Im sure i read on here that you can use an ortovox collar with a bellman and flint box[pieps].Has anyone got any experience using them together as im sure someone said you get a better mark,every time i use the bellman collar at digs of around four feet and over the dog seems to always be in the side of the dig and obviously not the best place to be any info would be appreciated as although the season for me is now over unless i get any calls from keepers,if it is a better set up it would be great.

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