reef 11 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line . Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line . I was informed that RW and LO lines of border dried up because they could no longer get a suitable out cross,i believe this to be true Quote Link to post
The Breeder 156 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .have you got all the pedigree of RW lines and jimC lines so what you are saying jim took over from ray he never bred them right and Raymond told me lies and i new him for over 25 years and jim Titchfield Terror was not out of rays stuff and the dog that Kieth Young bred Frosty was not out of levi stuff yet he was like a son to levi sum one has their wires cross Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrong Quote Link to post
mark p 60 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .how do you no what dogs are in the pedigree of mine.we had dogs of keith who was like a son to levi he used to clean his kennels out for him when he was ill.ray walker told me that when red stag was put over the right bitch he produced goog digging dogs he should no he did most of the digging to them.all the borders we have you can dig to turn them in if theres some one home your digging end of .these two dogs both have red stag in there lines Quote Link to post
The Breeder 156 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Breeder thank's for clearing that up for me Quote Link to post
winjim 1 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Breeder thank's for clearing that up for me Hi breeder i never took over from ray mate he had his borders we swapped a few we bred into each others got some good stuff but i never took over mate levi used alot of my stuff as well mate Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Breeder thank's for clearing that up for me Hi breeder i never took over from ray mate he had his borders we swapped a few we bred into each others got some good stuff but i never took over mate levi used alot of my stuff as well mate I thought,Breeder cleared up my post obviously not Quote Link to post
reef 11 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .how do you no what dogs are in the pedigree of mine.we had dogs of keith who was like a son to levi he used to clean his kennels out for him when he was ill.ray walker told me that when red stag was put over the right bitch he produced goog digging dogs he should no he did most of the digging to them.all the borders we have you can dig to turn them in if theres some one home your digging end of .these two dogs both have red stag in there lines you tell me how your dogs are bred ,how many borders did you have from levi or rw or jc if your dogs come from keith young, line bred as you say to red stag a non working border then they are not levi oaks bred ,levi only gave keith dogs he had back that were no good thats a fact, kieth was not a digging man ,if your happy with your borders thats all that matters Quote Link to post
winjim 1 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Breeder thank's for clearing that up for me Hi breeder i never took over from ray mate he had his borders we swapped a few we bred into each others got some good stuff but i never took over mate levi used alot of my stuff as well mate I thought,Breeder cleared up my post obviously not no mate sorry i never took over from any body ray stopped because of the in consistency of them plus they would need restin up 1 dig 3 to 4 week rested up an they were getting a tad to close little bitches big dogs Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hope the lines are still going,but why would RW tell a good friend of mine,who was down getting a line out of his black dogs,that he has finished with borders because he could not get a suitable outcross,if he couldnt find a suitable dog,who can?i hope i am wrongRaymond could of got a working border outcross but fell out with the men that owned them Jim took over from ray and bred some good workers he had the last of ray borders jim packed in the digging job and give the dog to mates and sold a few Breeder thank's for clearing that up for me Hi breeder i never took over from ray mate he had his borders we swapped a few we bred into each others got some good stuff but i never took over mate levi used alot of my stuff as well mate I thought,Breeder cleared up my post obviously not no mate sorry i never took over from any body ray stopped because of the in consistency of them plus they would need restin up 1 dig 3 to 4 week rested up an they were getting a tad to close little bitches big dogs Thank you,that is similar to what i have been told Quote Link to post
reef 11 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .have you got all the pedigree of RW lines and jimC lines so what you are saying jim took over from ray he never bred them right and Raymond told me lies and i new him for over 25 years and jim Titchfield Terror was not out of rays stuff and the dog that Kieth Young bred Frosty was not out of levi stuff yet he was like a son to levi sum one has their wires cross you knew raymond for 25 years yet you never had a dog from him and you know nothing about the breeding ,did you know levi or have a dog from him never heard of frosty did you ever dig to it . Quote Link to post
mark p 60 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .have you got all the pedigree of RW lines and jimC lines so what you are saying jim took over from ray he never bred them right and Raymond told me lies and i new him for over 25 years and jim Titchfield Terror was not out of rays stuff and the dog that Kieth Young bred Frosty was not out of levi stuff yet he was like a son to levi sum one has their wires cross you knew raymond for 25 years yet you never had a dog from him and you know nothing about the breeding ,did you know levi or have a dog from him never heard of frosty did you ever dig to it . your going on with your history il give you some facts bernie p worked them borders before the the lot of you off dannys first litter fact.he said they were extremley game and reckless he says the ones we have now are better digging dogs he should no he owns monty and frosty.he and irish billy also bred the weaton crosses that ray w and albert r carried on with that came of terry a.there you go a little bit of history for you Quote Link to post
reef 11 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) you asked in your pm about the breeding of taffy,taffy was out of rocky and meg levi put rocky as rockard of stoke on his working peds on a kc ped they would be master danny and swanlow morning mist, rocky was out of brit and pepper both bred by rw,meg was out of solo and midge also bred by rw ,gt grandparents would be simmy three times and brit who was out of simmy so you see they were very close bred, and then back to levis misty ,the last of what i consider as the good stuff was out of rocky and meg or rocky and buckel who was megs litter sister some good borders from these ,taffy jimmy,jake, mick, solo2, the best i remember . levi left himself with only one bitch from this line that was lady, im not sure what he used over her but i do know they were not as good. he tryed a couple of outcross borders one was red stag but he never bred back to it ,red stag was carried on by kieth young who never had good borders.levi oakes borders are gone ,and i dont think anyone today can put his name on there dogs if mark p has some good borders then all good ,but there not levi oakes bred and can only have a tiny % of this blood . i have all the working peds from the dogs i had from levi this was a very small line .have you got all the pedigree of RW lines and jimC lines so what you are saying jim took over from ray he never bred them right and Raymond told me lies and i new him for over 25 years and jim Titchfield Terror was not out of rays stuff and the dog that Kieth Young bred Frosty was not out of levi stuff yet he was like a son to levi sum one has their wires cross you knew raymond for 25 years yet you never had a dog from him and you know nothing about the breeding ,did you know levi or have a dog from him never heard of frosty did you ever dig to it . your going on with your history il give you some facts bernie p worked them borders before the the lot of you off dannys first litter fact.he said they were extremley game and reckless he says the ones we have now are better digging dogs he should no he owns monty and frosty.he and irish billy also bred the weaton crosses that ray w and albert r carried on with that came of terry a.there you go a little bit of history for you yeah and what does that have to do with your line bred red stag borders?? Edited October 27, 2009 by reef Quote Link to post
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