BLUCHER 1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Anyone got any theories why so many domestic dogs hate the fox so much. I mean most dogs will socialise with each other regardless of size, obviously hunting breeds have to a degree an inbuilt hatred as a result of selective breeding, but why do other dogs display this degree of agression towards them, when they all belong to the carnivora family. Any sensible theories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Maybe because a fox would eat dog pups if they ever happened across them? I saw a program about wolves in Yellowstone park a while back. The wolves were pretty much the same with coyotes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Seen documentaries with wolves killing coyotes ( i think), competition for food and territory maybe has larger and smaller predators at odds. Look at the big cats, cheetahs pushed off kills by bigger animals etc So maybe it's just in the genes from wolf days. Though I am likely talking rubbish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Must be same one I saw, You posted as I was writing. Similar food sources on territory will cause competiton for all who use that resource. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Must be same one I saw, You posted as I was writing. Similar food sources on territory will cause competiton for all who use that resource. Did the male coyote get killed when the new pack of wolves took over the territory? The old pack just used to drive them away, but he tried to push his luck with the new boys, and paid the price. Good program, if it was the same one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k9delboy 138 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Was in Georgia at Midland hunt a few years ago. Over 100 couple in kennels and a bloody coyote dug under the fence and took a litter of young hound pups. They are not shy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hector 1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 i believe it is something to do with predators mate to many predators in your area make it hard for you to feed bring out natural instinct in a dog but humans take the prey drive to another level in certain breeds just my opinion mate atb hector Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Must be same one I saw, You posted as I was writing. Similar food sources on territory will cause competiton for all who use that resource. Did the male coyote get killed when the new pack of wolves took over the territory? The old pack just used to drive them away, but he tried to push his luck with the new boys, and paid the price. Good program, if it was the same one! Sounds like it, if I remember correct there was an extremely bolshy alpha bitch in that pack too, male too. Then the sister to the alpha bitch took over, unless that was a different film. Definately remeber seeing the wolf hammer the coyote though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pops 19 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 wolves, coyotes & dogs all understand they are not the same animals and so will go out of their way kill each other off and limit competition. coyotes & jackals treat foxes the same way. not all dogs treat fox this way. within my personal experience hunting bull & mastiff breeds don't give them a glance once they've been on something that can really fight like boar. my last bullXcur wouldn't run anything but bear, boar and cat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kennyboy 1 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Must be same one I saw, You posted as I was writing. Similar food sources on territory will cause competiton for all who use that resource. Did the male coyote get killed when the new pack of wolves took over the territory? The old pack just used to drive them away, but he tried to push his luck with the new boys, and paid the price. Good program, if it was the same one! Sounds like it, if I remember correct there was an extremely bolshy alpha bitch in that pack too, male too. Then the sister to the alpha bitch took over, unless that was a different film. Definately remeber seeing the wolf hammer the coyote though. Yup. Seen that documentry too. The original pack tollerated the coyotes but when the new pack took over they ripped the male coyote to pieces. Guess dogs still have this prejudice. Like to kill thievin little f****rs. Alot like humans in a way . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Don't know if this theory holds any water but, could any of it be down to human selective breeding early on. When wolves started to come round the fire and showed certain qualities etc that the ones that gaurded livestock were bred on. Thus enhancing this trait over time. Don't know enough about early dogs, or early livestock to know if I'm talking rubbsh though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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