SportingShooter 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 The Violent Crime Reduction Act introduced a new legal age for the purchase and possession of Air Weapons. You have to be 18 to buy them and use them unaccompanied. With a Shotgun, your certificate allows you to buy Shotguns and Ammunition at 17. This is chiefly because you are vetted and checked and are of sound enough mind to buy them at 17 in the eyes of the law. You can use a shotgun at 15 unaccompanied for the same reasons. FAC Air Weapons can be bought at 17 as well because of the vetting process and good reasons you have to prove to acquire the authority to possess them. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 last time i asked a few loocal coppers they said its fine to shoot whenever you want on private land so long as your over 10 however you have to be accompianed by somebody over the age of 21 when walking to the land or in any public place.thought this was just ridiculusly stupid and should be changed. cheers chris They sound as if they have guessed at that. You can use a Shotgun under the age of 15 if you are under the supervision of an Adult over 21 years of age. I don't know where the 10 years old came from, seems to have been plucked from nowhere. Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 So to use an air rifle under the age of 18 on private land unaccopanied is illegal?! Quote Link to post
Sterry 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Not that i can figure, you just cant be in possession of one in a public place i.e. driving to my permission Quote Link to post
RaiderBoy 19 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 The Firearms Acts 1968-97 Airguns in the UK are subject to the firearms acts, under the Firearms (Dangerous air weapons) rules 1969 they are classified as low powered Air Weapons and as such they are restricted to a maximum power of 12 foot pounds force for a rifle and 6 foot pounds force for a pistol. Above 12ftlb a rifle is classified as a Section 1 Firearm and requires a licence called a firearms certificate, and a pistol above 6ftlb is again a Section 1 Firearm requiring a firearms certificate in the UK. The definition of a firearm under the act is "a lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged" it further defines "lethal weapon" as "a weapon capable of firing a projectile with sufficient force to inflict more than a trivial injury i.e. with sufficient force to puncture skin". The Home Office consider the lowest level of muzzle energy capable of inflicting a penetrating wound is one foot pound (1.35 joules) hence guns producing less than 1ft/lb are not covered by the act and therefore not classified as air weapons or subject to any restrictions. The 1997 Firearms Amendment Act made handguns illegal in the UK but Air Weapons were excluded under Section 5 (1) subsection (aba) "a prohibited weapon includes a firearm with a barrel length less than 30cms and an overall length less than 60cms, other than an air weapon, a muzzle loading gun, or a firearm designed as signalling apparatus". UK Legal Limit To calculate the power of an airgun you need to use a chronograph to measure the speed of the pellet (in feet per second) when fired, and you need to know the weight of the pellet in grains. Once you have that information you perform the following calculation: - speed (ft/sec) X speed (ft/sec) X weight (grains) 450240 this gives you the result in foot pounds force (ft-lb). As mentioned the legal maximum for an unlicensed air rifle is 12 ft-lb which from changing round the above formula, gives the approximate values as follows:- A .22 pellet weighing 14.4 grains, maximum permissible speed is 612 ft/sec A .177 pellet weighing 7.9 grains, maximum permissible speed is 826 ft/sec The corresponding figures for a pistol are 433 ft/sec for a .22 and 584 ft/sec for a .177 The pellet weights used in the above calculation are typical weights for the sizes of pellet but you must always check the actual weight of your pellet before performing your own calculation. Purchasing Guns and Ammunition The laws concerning the purchase of guns and ammunition are as follows:- Any person under the age of 18 years of age may not purchase or own guns or ammunition. Persons aged between 14 and 18 years may not purchase guns or ammunition but may borrow or have them purchased on their behalf by some one over 18 years of age. Persons over the age of 18 years may purchase guns and ammunition, the guns having a power less than the UK legal limit. Guns over that limit require a fire arms certificate to be granted before they can be owned. Airguns and Young Persons The laws concerning the use of airguns by young persons are as follows:- Any one under the age of 14 can only use an airgun whilst under the direct supervision and control of someone over 21, whilst on private property with the permission of the owner of the premises. A person aged between 14 and 18 can use an airgun on private property where they have a right to be, without supervision. They may carry an unloaded rifle (but not a pistol) in a public place only if it is in a securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired, an under 14 year old must again be directly supervised by an over 21 year old. A pistol can only be carried by someone over 18, again it must be unloaded and in a securely fastened case. Public Places and Highways You may never have an airgun in a public place without proper reason for doing so. If you are travelling to and from a place where you have the right to shoot, the gun must be in a case as above. A gun is loaded if there is a pellet or any form of projectile in it, including an "air weapon which has a loaded magazine, is loaded even though there is no round in the breach". It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, if by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway. Public highways include roads, bridleways and public footpaths. Trespass If you go on to any land, including over water and in buildings, without permission you are Trespassing. If you have an Airgun with you it is classed as Armed Trespass which is a serious Criminal offence even if the gun is not loaded. Airgun Prey The following pests are considered suitable for controlling using a sub-12 ft-lb Airgun. Brown Rat, Grey Squirrel, Rabbit, Crow, Rook, Magpie, Jay, Wood pigeon, Collared Dove, Feral Pigeon, House mouse, and recently Mink have been added to the list. These are not always considered pests and only Authorised Persons can shoot them in all circumstances. Please check with your local authority before shooting any live quarry. Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 All bird and animals are protected by law. Certain species are classified as pests or vermin and only these species can be legitimately shot and then only by authorised persons. An Authorised Person is someone who has the proper permission from the land owner to control pests on that land. Quote Link to post
the Verminator 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 you can have a shotgun (providing you have a SGC) from as low as age as 12 but you need to be accompenied by an adult. i dont know what age you can start shooting without the supervison of an adult. i think its 16 or 18. thats not right, i got my shotgun certificate at 9. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 RaiderBoy, some good stuff there At least it settles that you can shoot an Air Rifle on private land unaccompanied between 14 and 18, which I didn't know Quote Link to post
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