Hi phill,
Thank you for the feed back and positive feedback at that, I think your correct he is at the age were he wants to see what he can get away with but it's getting better every time we go out although it's thick fog in hull tonight and with the dark night he was very alert not frightened as such but very on edge so that might be why he stayed close.we Saw a fox told him to heel and wait which he did but give off a bark, "first time I've heard him bark properly didn't realise how deep and loud they could bark", again said a simple firm NO and he sat back down so fuss and bit of food,