'thick as pigshit and had no drive or desire',' Bucket full of water springs to mined',etc etc lol
i dont think theres much point me defending the dobermann, as there are crap breeders and there are good breaders of doberman, unfortunatly for the dobermann most but not all breeders are breeding for looks and nothing else, as is the case with alot of breeds in the uk. but there are breeders out there that breed there dogs for there original perpose.
heres some pics of the dobermann and the lurcher will post some pics of the puppy later on in the day when i get the cam out