Southcoast you have ur opinion mate I respect that like I have mine my dog 5 n half came comes from ire I came run yous on a fen bulldozer 2n half he cudnt beat a 5 n half year old dog it hurts you I can see that but ifs and but no one will know jack didn't slip it was a draw end of. Both dogs same age I'd take my dog simple reason all the site can say whether they agree my dog run any land ire, sco, wales, eng iafraid bully can't mate this why you stating clearly a proper fen It was a proper fen you mean yous didn't like dykes with reeds you want no escapes that to me not a proper dog. Jack w