justa quick update pups are now 12 weeks oldand are standing at 14-16 inches, i changed my mind on the one i was keeping i chose a smooth black dog, his training is comin on great he sits walks on the lead and has been retreaving tennis balls for 2 weeks, he loves the local park as well he is like a lab when it comes to water, he was one of the smallest pups but has turned out the biggest so far, standing at 16 inches tts at 12 weeks old, ive managed to stay in touch with people who bought 7 of the pups and they are over the moon with there progress, will update with some pics when i get time