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IV Ecosse

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  1. 11 hours ago, jigsaw said:

    so how does this artificial earth work ,ive never came across one ,this i assume is a series of tunnels constructed of timber ? and at the end is a cage ? with what inside it? and the point of this exercise is to see which dog can get to the caged quarry the fastest ,or is it to see which dog will travel it? its a genuine enquiry ,,as ive no experience with an artificial...

    Your thinking of the eastern boys and their jagd/teckle setups - couldn’t be further from that. That is not an artificial earth 

    artificial earth is actually dug into the earth, approx 1.5/2ft deep, minimum 2 entries/exits and one chamber 

    west facing, good drainage, water source nearby, on a slight slope, dog-leg angle on tunnels to minimise draft, chamber doesn’t have to be massive 

    tunnels lined with field stone and small slabs over the top (I put plastic feed bags over slabs Before filing in 

    chamber lined with breeze blocks and big old style concrete slab as top 

    all internal walls lined with stone/blocks  to stop natural digging of stop ends or further tubes 

    the guy that showed me how to make em said the idea was to make em like a five star hotel instead of their usual drafty, damp, one bedroom flat 

    once they all filled in apart form entires/exit holes they should be no sign of em 

    only other thing I do is set bigger stones at entrances to make a narrower  entrance to try and make it fox only if decided by land owner otherwise all are welcome 

    Some perms I remove stones and get iron grid (made by blackie) hammered in over off season

    somenstay open all year round depending on land owner

    takes Half a day to make depending on ground and access for slabs etc. 

      4 sites with 3-4 artificials at each, 2 sites one week, visit other two sites following week 

    Some yield better than others which input down to location. I tend to find a double chamber with 3 in/outs works the best 

    This works for me and is what I do each to their own. 

    bolts can me netted or shot any game contacted will usually be drawn out dispatched or near enough 

    remember not to accidentally set a grid on exits before popping in your Glen though, it blocks the escape - if you get my drift 

     

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  2. 8 hours ago, dogmandont said:

    A terrier that can’t work natural earths. ???????. About as useful as a chocolate fire guard. 

    I find it just as hilarious that you think just because it’s a “terrier” it’s meant to work a natural earth 

    why would a draw dog work a natural earth? Some glens heads aren’t spanable let alone their bodies 

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  3. Have you even ran a proper decent artificial? Nope - didn’t think so

    commenting on something you know nothing about 

    I can guarantee once I lift the gates on my sets that they will hold - dogs get work, people pay to shoot, land owners get what they want 

    sit down little boy and go play pretend hunter with your boyfriends 

  4. This forum does attract some total dross - posting little faces rather than issuing an opinion.

    i take it “rabbit hunter” & “w.katchum” both have working bred glens?

    glens have large bodies and big heads, many (not all) natural earths are to small for them, trust me - if your a total twat you could just use em as a draw dog - probably what you pair would do tbh 

    an artificial is a great way for a glen to earn its keep - plus it’s an easy way to get them in front of stuff when younger 

    you idiots need to realise the Glen was never a dog to be dug too - they are a trial dog! Have you ever seen a Glen once it’s been “on game” around another dog? Not what you want around a days digging that’s for sure 

     

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  5. £1000 for a 3 yr old working bitch seemed fair - I got his purchase price confirmed from breeder (in Ireland) and also how much he spent getting dog shipped over - then upkeep for 3yrs, and the fact she was working 

    Didnt seem unreasonable - the guy defo had best interest in mind! I don’t think even if you did churn pups out you’d have that much buyers - it’s not as if the terrier lads can dig to them. 

    But over all I agree £1000 is a hefty chunk for a working dog 

  6. On 14/11/2018 at 07:45, jigsaw said:

    is there anyone with a pair of genuine working glens? id love to see that ,i have looked andd searched hard and have failed to find anyone so far 

    They are out there - I was offered a working bitch about a year & 1/2 ago

    £1000 was the price - didn’t have the cash 

     

     

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