thanks for your reply i wouldnt buy of anybody would put the feeler out first and afew friends usual asthe breed hard dogs a just thought the 3/4 breed would of maybe been slightly faster that the fist cross no offense to the chap i was put in touch with was the heart break kennels has some for sale of the 3/4 x 1/4 grey bed do you no of apparently they breed well only going on some people what do you think.