TelephonePete
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Posts posted by TelephonePete
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The other Day I had a shoot off between my
HW77 long Paul Short stage 3 tuned
My Hw 97 I think just a fettle not me.
My HW 77 Long no scope just a diopter no Magnification.
And my tx200 tuned and short stroked by my Nephew. Targets at 20 yards (all the room I have) rifles all rested on a Bean Bag. Weihrauch guns QYS Domed. AATX JSB Express. All .177. Its not Conclusive I dont think. I am pleased with the Diopter result. It is more or less the same as the scopes.
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Thanks it looks good. I expect its just being on your toes with the Oil.
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On 21/09/2023 at 09:47, bigmac 97kt said:
And the rifle before
Very nice. May I ask what is the silver finish on the action?
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3 minutes ago, TelephonePete said:
I tried three different hw95. The first 2 over several years were dreadful to shoot huge groups then a good one then off again. Years went buy and I tried another and from the first shot it was fine as accurate as any gun I own. The only difference I could think of was my technique had changed over the years or It was fitted with a Vortek kit when i acquired the gun. Notorious gun as is the 98. Get a 77 or 97 or 99
Why not look for a beat up old 77 LONG BARREL. Then a williams peep sight similar to a diopter. You can use the front post fore sight or pick up a hw80 globe front sight. Then just test the water and see if you like it. Due to lack of space this is what got me to try open sight shooting, and it is fascinating totally absorbing. Sometime after a break and shooting scope for a while, as now actually. I take the 77 into the garden look downrange at the 20 yard backstop and how small the bulls look with no magnification and think no way, but in they go and no matter what the conditions I never fail to hit the black. Just try it but remember the longer the sight base the better. I bought a new 99 to use for opens. Tricked it out like the 77 and it was fine. But never as good as the 77. It was very good though.
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15 hours ago, .357shooter said:
cheers,i have tried everything and even the way you suggest but that is no good either.with my hw 95k today i managed some better groups with a gentle grip on the forend.my tx now though is starting to improve a lot now i have the big q tech i think silencer on it.just out of practice and i can now not shoot them for shit standing also.
I tried three different hw95. The first 2 over several years were dreadful to shoot huge groups then a good one then off again. Years went buy and I tried another and from the first shot it was fine as accurate as any gun I own. The only difference I could think of was my technique had changed over the years or It was fitted with a Vortek kit when i acquired the gun. Notorious gun as is the 98. Get a 77 or 97 or 99
On 07/09/2023 at 11:26, philpot said:Very nice Pete, love the diopter sights. I used them on my old Air Arms 200T for bell target shooting and loved them but not so easy to set up in my humble opinion but I am sure that was just me being an idiot. Lovely guns as well, just sold my HW35 as I never used it but when I look at yours with the diopter sight, I wish I had gone that route and used it for target work.........................oh well, a good reason to keep an eye open for something else.
Phil
Why not look for a beat up old 77 LONG BARREL. Then a williams peep sight similar to a diopter. You can use the front post fore sight or pick up a hw80 globe front sight. Then just test the water and see if you like it. Due to lack of space this is what got me to try open sight shooting, and it is fascinating totally absorbing. Sometime after a break and shooting scope for a while, as now actually. I take the 77 into the garden look downrange at the 20 yard backstop and how small the bulls look with no magnification and think no way, but in they go and no matter what the conditions I never fail to hit the black. Just try it but remember the longer the sight base the better. I bought a new 99 to use for opens. Tricked it out like the 77 and it was fine. But never as good as the 77. It was very good though.
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I have had two hw97's in the past. They have now gone from me but just this week I acquired this. I have avoided these stocks but I quite like them now.
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Long story Short a few days ago this arrived. A very nice hw97 in a cs500 stock. I had problems with the stock in that it needed a job doing as it was not comfortable for for me so I put it into a 77 stock.I like 77 stocks. However I now am expecting today this 97 stock I hope this is it.
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The hw95 is notorious for being very sensitive to the shooters hold. I have had 3. The first two I tried everything that anybody who answers this thread will suggest, guaranteed. I even purchased hw98 heavy barrels to see if this would do the trick but alas no. in despair I twice sold the gun and barrels and resolved this was the end of it. Some years later I decided one more try. I was amazed that from the very first shot after zeroing I was nailing 5 shot groups under 5p time after time. It was as accurate as my HW99. What happened in the intervening years. Search me. Perhaps my technique had altered more to suit the 95. I will say which maybe the answer. The gun was fitted with a Vortec Kit. I was so keen on it I fitted a cs stock and a 98 barrel and the accuracy was maintained and Having cracked it I sold it as I prefered my HW99. I am surprised that you have not heard of this awful problem with this gun. I would would cut my losses sell the gun and get a HW99. This was it when I sold it.
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On 03/09/2023 at 11:40, .357shooter said:
good groups,wish i could shoot of a rest.all i get is my scope jumps left to right with my heartbeat and there is nothing i can do to stop it.
Which springer and which rest? Or is it all springers. You must not try to restrain Springer recoil. It is consistent every time as long as you do not try to restrain it. Try shooting with just your trigger hand and tuck your other hand just under the tip of the butt. If you are touching the Forend in any way try doing it this way. This is how I shoot. Open sights at 20 yards. The jump of the Springer is not important as it is the same every time. Try shooting off 10x mag.
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I am a big fan of the HW77 I have two both the long version. I shoot mostly open sights as my Garden is only about 22 yards. However I did a few weeks ago treat myself to a Paul Short stage 3 tuned Long 77. Geof at LCD did the Ceracoting and modified the underlever to a Ball Bearing lock up. The loading Port has also been Jewelled. Oddly I find the Diopter just as accurate at 20 yards as the scope. The Diopter with no magnification continues to amaze me. All I can see at 22 yards is this.
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The express but when you actually are looking at the card it is quite obvious that the FTT beat the Express. I wasnt bothered about anything but the group. Then i re zeroed the FTT for direct hit on the dot and touched every one. I had already done it for the express and left the card at my Nephews house.
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I finished pellet testing yesterday for the HW110. The two top Contenders were AA Express and Field Target Trophy. The FT Trophy are £6 a tin cheaper than the Express. Much to my relief the FT Trophy got it. So I put the diopter back on and just shot one card at 20 Yards. That is far better than my last attempt before the Pellet test. Sorry I doubled up on the Pic.
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That sounds like a dog I would like to have. At least half working Collie plus the make up of the lurcher. Always fancied a lurcher with a big dollop of Collie. Here is my rescue Collie she is over 10 now and fit and fast as ever. Wonderful Bitch. I will never get the lurcher now. taken last week
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Lovely read. He looks in great Nick. What is his pedigree? I dont like using that word for a Working Dog but you know what I mean.
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It would say mark 2 very prominently on the gun.
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This was my carbined hw44 yesterday with the red dot at 15 yards. Lots of fun these red dots but after 15 yards the dot starts to
get too big for the 50mm bull. Really dont know what to do about that except get massive bulls.
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37 minutes ago, Deker said:
Nobody seems to know...or nobody seems to know how to fix it...been like this a month or 2 now!!!
I was only joking dont give a flying F really. Thanks.
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Whats wrong with the emojis anybody know.
bollacks.
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Thats not bad with 8.44 pellet about 16ftlbs. I could live with that happily.
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I thought a .177 pellet was unstable at FAC speeds.
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1 hour ago, JayB0 said:
Where did you get the biathlon lever from bud?
Ebay its the Fentons one. £14 95 and a bargain. Made a real difference. Pellet testing at mo. 27 yds all I have got in Garden. JSB exact this afternoon in bad wind and light drizzle. JSB EXACT. £14.95. Now I need a cheapo that shoots the same. Superdome is v.good in this gun. Just ordered a tin £8.45. Will compare. Do you have a 110?
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Just got my Biathlon Lever. Looks the Dogs Bollacks. Scope on as pellet testing. Back to Diopter when I know best Pellet. Expensive game.
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So do I. I am addicted. i dont really shoot scopes anymore.
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1 hour ago, philpot said:
I do like the diopter sights for their intended purpose but if you are using them because yo can't get a scope to focus, simply get a scope that goes down to 10mt. I only have a 15mt garden but all my scopes focus perfectly at that.
Phil
No I find it very limiting only having 27 yards and a bit too easy with a scope. With the diopter its a different ball game and not easy at all.
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Four Springer Shoot off.
in General Airgun Discussion
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It hasnt proved a thing though except that a Diopter can give a scope a run for its money at 20 yards..