Lamping Off The Silp lead

[Guest Catcher]

nice post Catcher bud atb

 

KEANO

 

 

Trying Keano Cheers

[Hollie 21]

My dad was telling me the other day about how he never had a lead for his Lurcher, he trained him to work on voice commands and how one day when i was about 3 we were out on a bike ride with dog beside us when a hare sprung across the road but the dog never took off because he wasn't told he 'could', i would love to get my dog to that standard to you

 

 

We all think our dad is a wise man.In your case it,s true.Your dads dog knew by the tone of his voice what it could and could not do My dad ran greyhound most of his life on and off the track.These guys knew the score.They dident have all the gismos and calls that we can buy today they learned like the dog.Time and effort .If only we had them on this site today we would all learn a think or two.ATB catcher.

 

 

 

My dad is the wisest man in the land, isn't he???

Or is it that i'm a daddies girl and i think my dad rocks

 

 

[Guest Catcher]

I have to say watching people jump their dogs over fences whilst still on the slip is a pet hate of mine! it betrays to me their lack of trust in their own dogs obedience. Its a simple matter to train a dog to wait for you once its jumped a fence just practice during daylight hours, get the dog to jump over then as soon as its feet hit the ground, call it in and praise it verbally or keep its attention on you as you climb the fence then as soon as your on the other side, call the dog right in and give it a pat before you pop it back on the slip again. If you do this every time you come to a fence the dog will soon learn the routine and not go running off when you do it in the dark. I always lamp pups from a slip because I want to be in control of what they run and how difficult the runs are, I monitor their progress closely and only once they are seasoned and experienced do I start running off the slip. The best way to do it is towards the middle or end of the night when the dogs had a few runs and kills under its belt and the sting is out of it, its less likely to go tearing off after everything it sees when your scanning the field. I also make a hiss noise every time I release the slip, this then becomes the trigger for the dog to go, once its lamped off the slip. If the dog tries to go after a rabbit without your say so, simply turn the light off and call it back in. If it comes back in without chasing the rabbit properly, keep it off the slip and try again. If it chases the rabbit in the dark simply ignore it when it comes back, no verbal praise or petting, and pop back on the slip for a couple of chases, then try off the slip again. Dogs soon learn, no light = no help from master/mistress and no praise when they return. Praise is very important and often overlooked. Many people praise a young pup its first few trips out, then they stop once it gets proficient. I always praise my dogs right up til their last night lamping whether that be 10 yrs 11 yrs or however long they last.

 

 

Hi SJM Agree with what your saying but some people and i know a few of the best lampers in the county. They will not work there dogs off the slip.why i think it,s down to the owner.He know,s best how to work his dog.I am not saying me and you are right and they are all wrong.At the end of the day every one has there own way of how to work there dog best.

[Guest Catcher]

Hi i would like your opinion about lamping without the use of a slip lead.When I started running lurchers IT was all day work.About 1993 anyway My first dog had to learn by instinged as it was me the dog and some tips i got off older people.I had read a few books every one had there own way.I got a few tips that would work of one but not the other.In the end After about ten mnth i relised you can read all the book,s that have ever been wrote. )But you can only train the dog the correctly whey when you begin to know it,s temproment.I could go into all this but any good lurcherman will know what i,am talking about.Gave her first run on rabbits just over ten mnth up in bigger got two rappid back live to hand as she had only been trained on dummys Got her first hare sixteen mnth.Put her on the lamp about two and a half(nightmare)this dog was used to working up her own quarry with her nose.It took me about three mnth to catch her frist hare on the lamp.After another two mnth i took her of the slip lead and made her heal till she was told to fetch.If she moved without being told the lamp would be turned off and she would be called in At fist she would brake away and run across one of the other lads path.Then i would get a power.But in the end the dog came good.I have now trained three dogs to work off the lead lamping P.S The reason i did this i hated haveing to slip the dog at every fence then put her back on.

hats off too u catcher a think it takes a patient man too own and work a lutcher with a slip lead so u must hav the patince ov a saint too train it too heal everything in the dog must hav been telling it too give chase or too wonder off and just hunt up quarry its self with the dog being used too day work fair play too you

Cheers ma man.

[Guest Catcher]

Using a slip just saves time training the dog to walk to heel off the slip at night but if i was patient enough then i would probably have a go at it, but i do not mind the slip lead at all, and will probably use a slip lead at night all of my lamping time but ferreting the dog is always off the slip.

 

 

Have a go mate .It,s not that hard.atb catcher.