SMK XS78

[marshall298 0]

what u think of the SMK XS78 CO2 Air Rifle mite get one just till a get my lisence then its a 243

[hiho 5]

why would you want an air rifle which you can only use for animals no bigger than a hare the replace it with a 243 which at a guess your gona be using for foxs and deer unless your gonna be blowing up small animals at over £1 a bang!! i dont really understand what ur on abought

by the way the air gun your on abought is allright if it gets tuned up and you like buying CO2 bulbs. But it would be usless on cold days

[Biffo1262 0]

why would you want an air rifle which you can only use for animals no bigger than a hare the replace it with a 243 which at a guess your gona be using for foxs and deer unless your gonna be blowing up small animals at over £1 a bang!! i dont really understand what ur on abought

by the way the air gun your on abought is allright if it gets tuned up and you like buying CO2 bulbs. But it would be usless on cold days

 

 

The XS78 was originally a copy of the Crosman Rabbitstopper. Both guns replicate the bolt action of powder burners and were and actually still are used by some youth groups as trainers. The statement that it will be useless in cold weather isn't quite true as I use mine all year round. Co2 needs to be above 10 deg C to reach it's working pressure but that only needs to be at the guns breech. I use those small reusable hand warmers that you can get from Lidl and Aldi just tucked in my left hand adjacent to the breech and it shoots just as it does during the Summer. There is also the bonus of a warm left hand!

 

Another way of using the gun in cold weather is to get an offset adapter like the MaxZbulk and use a paintball bottle attached to the gun. You can then use a small draw-cord type bag around the cylinder with one or two of the above mentioned hand warmers inside. The MaxZbulk is very difficult to get hold of (I've got one but I'm still trying for a 2nd) but you can contact Max Balbuena (good luck with that) at MaxZbulk.

 

The advice about tuning is spot on as the pwer of these guns out of the box varies greatly. They can be easilt tuned to the 11ft/lbs mark but any higher and you risk going illegal on a hot day. You can get the gun tuned by Ian Lamb of QBtune and a brilliant job he does of them too. It's money really well spent and makes your gun much more desirable on the second hand market. There is information in abundance on the internet but most of it is designed to take the gun above FAC levels so take care. QBtune is always my first choice and I know a fair bit about these guns (I have three of them) but Ian Lamb's professional tricks on tuning are known only to him and he doesn't go in for modifying the valve either! First rate guy.

 

You can also get a multi-shot magazine for them from Rowan Engineering. That's one of my guns on their website modelling the magazine.

 

Edited August 28, 2008 by Biffo1262

[shaun sale 0]

the gun isent so clever mate ok for plinking in the garden but wouldent take it hunting and co2 bulbs in a rifle to me just dont mix if your looking for a buget gun try one of smks springers .happy hunting mate

[Biffo1262 0]

the gun isent so clever mate ok for plinking in the garden but wouldent take it hunting and co2 bulbs in a rifle to me just dont mix if your looking for a buget gun try one of smks springers .happy hunting mate

 

 

Quite frankly that info is way, way off the mark! I suggest you do a bit of research especially on US websites where they have a cult following. The sale of these guns is going through the roof at the moment. Just what is it you don't like about CO2 at 850psi as against the 2500psi in a PCP? I shoot the AA S400 Classic and I also have three CO2 guns. My fully tuned XS78 is a fair match for any gun at my club (they had the same opinion as you once upon a time - not any more though, I can't get it back off them at times) and I match them shot for shot out to 65yds, which seems to be about the accurate limit for this gun, and that's with a .22 calibre; my .177 project isn't finished yet but I have really high hopes for this one! The main problem with them is their somewhat irregular build quality and to correct it you need to spend a bit of time and money. If you are prepared to do it, you will have nice gun that is a match for most common air rifles (I've spent over £400 in total on one of mine but I don't begrudge a penny of it - brilliant fun.

Edited August 28, 2008 by Biffo1262

[shaun sale 0]

if you read my reply properley i said that to me bulbs and rifles dont mix. not that they arnt any gud. and that picture you have their of your rifle hasent got a 88g bulb is it. i dont doubt that if you tune them up you can get great results.

Edited August 28, 2008 by shaun sale

[Biffo1262 0]

if you read my reply properley i said that to me bulbs and rifles dont mix. not that they arnt any gud.

 

 

Oh yes? Your words my friend! Bulbs are by far the most convenient way of recharging in the field. Many a PCP owner would wish for something similar if it were possible. Plus when the gun is charged they are no longer bulbs but a charged reservoir so I don't actually see your point. :wallbash:

 

the gun isent so clever mate ok for plinking in the garden but wouldent take it hunting

Edited August 28, 2008 by Biffo1262

[shaun sale 0]

if you read my reply properley i said that to me bulbs and rifles dont mix. not that they arnt any gud.

 

 

Oh yes? Your words my friend! Bulbs are by far the most convenient way of recharging in the field. Many a PCP owner would wish for something similar if it were possible. Plus when the gun is charged they are no longer bulbs but a charged reservoir so I don't actually see your point. :wallbash:

 

the gun isent so clever mate ok for plinking in the garden but wouldent take it hunting

i am a pcp owner and us pcp owners have buddy bottles to recharge in the feild and the rifle we are talking about has a bulb not a air reservoir so i dont see your point .have a look at smks cataulouge to see if for yourself.

Edited August 28, 2008 by shaun sale

[T78 4]

the fact remains that out of the box,the smk isn't much cop for hunting.if he was going to spend pcp money on tuning it he might as well get......(wait for it!)......a pcp! by the sounds of it he is looking for a stop gap rifle,til he gets a fac. a 2nd hand,reasonable quality springer such as a lightning or stingray would probably be a better choice. imo.

[rabbit_killer 2]

the fact remains that out of the box,the smk isn't much cop for hunting.if he was going to spend pcp money on tuning it he might as well get......(wait for it!)......a pcp! by the sounds of it he is looking for a stop gap rifle,til he gets a fac. a 2nd hand,reasonable quality springer such as a lightning or stingray would probably be a better choice. imo.

 

i agree load of s**t out of the box but chuck £400 at it then it will be great!!

 

whats the point??

 

you could get a secondhand pcp full set up for £500