N Ireland trapping laws.

[Guest SPIFF]

I have a mate who set a live cage fox trap with full landowners permission.While baiting the trap with a pheasant he had been checking it everyday for weeks with no luck.Today he went as usual to check and found police at the trap with a badger in it.The police confiscated trap and called vet to inspect badger,which was unharmed and relaeased.

They told him he would never get the trap back .

What is the law with regards to non target species caught in legal traps and do the police have the right to hold legal traps .

[sean 0]

spiff

 

not sure of trapping laws here but would have though the same as UK (dont quote me), but i would have thought that the fact it is a live catch trap which allows u to release non target animals ,there should have been no problem. Thats the whole idea of the trap.

 

Your mate should go back to police and ask them to explain why they took it of him , I know I would and they would want a bloody good reason for keeping it.

 

The police who lifted it may not know the law themselves so you need to get the facts. Give BASC or CA a ring if you are a member.

 

I am not sure but I beleive there might be some sort of country side officers now in PSNI why not check that out.

 

I will check with a few PSNI mates to see if I can come up with anything but dont hold your breath.

 

sean

[sean 0]

SPIFF

 

SEE THIS AS WELL

 

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?...filesize=147497

 

ITS THE WILDLIFE ORDER NI 1985 SHOULD COVER EVERYTHING U NEED TO KNOW

 

PRINTED OF A COPY FOR MYSELF YOU JUST NEVER KNOW

 

SEAN

[Guest SPIFF]

Thanks sean and adam appreciate your help

[spynappels 0]

A mate of mine in Banbridge found a trap on his land, without his permission, so he called the cops and they brought a vet. There was a badger caught in it, and the cops reckoned they were after badgers for dog fighting. The police hung around, and funny enough, a little while later someone came down the yard and headed straight for where the trap was. When the cops challenged him, he said he'd dropped his phone and was looking for it. This person had permission to shoot pigeons, but nothing else. My mate reckons he will be installing CCTV around his yard to deter intruders doing what they are not supposed to.

 

Shows that cops are taking badger catching very seriously, they were out 10 mins after phone call.

Edited August 12, 2008 by spynappels

[tango 221]

A mate of mine in Banbridge found a trap on his land, without his permission, so he called the cops and they brought a vet. There was a badger caught in it, and the cops reckoned they were after badgers for dog fighting. The police hung around, and funny enough, a little while later someone came down the yard and headed straight for where the trap was. When the cops challenged him, he said he'd dropped his phone and was looking for it. This person had permission to shoot pigeons, but nothing else. My mate reckons he will be installing CCTV around his yard to deter intruders doing what they are not supposed to.

 

Shows that cops are taking badger catching very seriously, they were out 10 mins after phone call.

I WAS JUST WONDERING,I WAS OUT WITH THE PUP THE OTHER NIGHT ON THE LAMP,ANYWAY I DIDNT SEE MUCH SO HEADED FOR HOME,WHEN I PARKED AT HOME I DECIDED TO TAKE HIM OUT THE ROAD FOR A WALK BY WHICH TIME IT WAS 1.00 AM,THERE I WAS WALKIN AND WHEN A CAR WAS COMIN I ALWAYS SHINE THE LAMP ON THE ROAD SO THEY CAN SEE ME.ANYWAY THE COPS PASS ME AND THEN 2 MINUTES LATER COME BACK REAL SLOW AND PULL UP BESIDE ME AND OPEN THE DOOR(MOST COP CAR WINDOWS DONT OPEN OVER HERE AS THE HAVE BULLETPROOF GLASS,FOR ANYONE ACROSS THE WATER WONDERING)HE ASKS WHAT IM AT AND I TELL HIM IM WALKIN THE DOG THEN HE SAYS "YOUR NOT HUNTING ARE YOU"TO WHICH I SAY NO AS IM NOT AT THAT POINT SO OF THEY HEAD VERY SLOWLY ROUND THE CORNER AND WHEN THEY THINK THERE OUT OF SIGHT THEY STOP BUT SEEING THEM AND NOT BEING SURE I JUST HEAD FOR HOME,IVE BEEN LAMPIN MOST OF MY LIFE AND NEVER HAD ANY BOTHER SO I WAS WONDERING IS THERE ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE PULLED ME ON IF I HAD SAID I WAS HUNTING

[Guest SPIFF]

A mate of mine in Banbridge found a trap on his land, without his permission, so he called the cops and they brought a vet. There was a badger caught in it, and the cops reckoned they were after badgers for dog fighting. The police hung around, and funny enough, a little while later someone came down the yard and headed straight for where the trap was. When the cops challenged him, he said he'd dropped his phone and was looking for it. This person had permission to shoot pigeons, but nothing else. My mate reckons he will be installing CCTV around his yard to deter intruders doing what they are not supposed to.

 

Shows that cops are taking badger catching very seriously, they were out 10 mins after phone call.

 

Sounds similar but different area and the fella has permission could you pm me your details to keep me informed on the case please.

 

Thing is police where phoned for a violent assault near me and it took them 45min?

 

I thought only dogs where involved in dog fighting,why would anyone want a badger?

 

Do you live in the area.Was it a live cage trap?If so why did they not think the man was going to release non target species??

 

Read in the Newsletter that 27 paedophiles where relocated within a 1/2 mile radius of 2 schools in Banbridge.Talk about priorities getting mixed up.

[Guest SPIFF]

A mate of mine in Banbridge found a trap on his land, without his permission, so he called the cops and they brought a vet. There was a badger caught in it, and the cops reckoned they were after badgers for dog fighting. The police hung around, and funny enough, a little while later someone came down the yard and headed straight for where the trap was. When the cops challenged him, he said he'd dropped his phone and was looking for it. This person had permission to shoot pigeons, but nothing else. My mate reckons he will be installing CCTV around his yard to deter intruders doing what they are not supposed to.

 

Shows that cops are taking badger catching very seriously, they were out 10 mins after phone call.

I WAS JUST WONDERING,I WAS OUT WITH THE PUP THE OTHER NIGHT ON THE LAMP,ANYWAY I DIDNT SEE MUCH SO HEADED FOR HOME,WHEN I PARKED AT HOME I DECIDED TO TAKE HIM OUT THE ROAD FOR A WALK BY WHICH TIME IT WAS 1.00 AM,THERE I WAS WALKIN AND WHEN A CAR WAS COMIN I ALWAYS SHINE THE LAMP ON THE ROAD SO THEY CAN SEE ME.ANYWAY THE COPS PASS ME AND THEN 2 MINUTES LATER COME BACK REAL SLOW AND PULL UP BESIDE ME AND OPEN THE DOOR(MOST COP CAR WINDOWS DONT OPEN OVER HERE AS THE HAVE BULLETPROOF GLASS,FOR ANYONE ACROSS THE WATER WONDERING)HE ASKS WHAT IM AT AND I TELL HIM IM WALKIN THE DOG THEN HE SAYS "YOUR NOT HUNTING ARE YOU"TO WHICH I SAY NO AS IM NOT AT THAT POINT SO OF THEY HEAD VERY SLOWLY ROUND THE CORNER AND WHEN THEY THINK THERE OUT OF SIGHT THEY STOP BUT SEEING THEM AND NOT BEING SURE I JUST HEAD FOR HOME,IVE BEEN LAMPIN MOST OF MY LIFE AND NEVER HAD ANY BOTHER SO I WAS WONDERING IS THERE ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE PULLED ME ON IF I HAD SAID I WAS HUNTING

Tango i ve been pulled loads of times just similar circumstances.If you reply yes im hunting they ask you for permission etc.The 2nd stage of ParSNI training is done by the biased USPCA therefore all the young coppers are taught to believe we re all sadists out torturing wildlife.

 

OR "catching badgers for DOGFIGHTING"

[tango 221]

A mate of mine in Banbridge found a trap on his land, without his permission, so he called the cops and they brought a vet. There was a badger caught in it, and the cops reckoned they were after badgers for dog fighting. The police hung around, and funny enough, a little while later someone came down the yard and headed straight for where the trap was. When the cops challenged him, he said he'd dropped his phone and was looking for it. This person had permission to shoot pigeons, but nothing else. My mate reckons he will be installing CCTV around his yard to deter intruders doing what they are not supposed to.

 

Shows that cops are taking badger catching very seriously, they were out 10 mins after phone call.

I WAS JUST WONDERING,I WAS OUT WITH THE PUP THE OTHER NIGHT ON THE LAMP,ANYWAY I DIDNT SEE MUCH SO HEADED FOR HOME,WHEN I PARKED AT HOME I DECIDED TO TAKE HIM OUT THE ROAD FOR A WALK BY WHICH TIME IT WAS 1.00 AM,THERE I WAS WALKIN AND WHEN A CAR WAS COMIN I ALWAYS SHINE THE LAMP ON THE ROAD SO THEY CAN SEE ME.ANYWAY THE COPS PASS ME AND THEN 2 MINUTES LATER COME BACK REAL SLOW AND PULL UP BESIDE ME AND OPEN THE DOOR(MOST COP CAR WINDOWS DONT OPEN OVER HERE AS THE HAVE BULLETPROOF GLASS,FOR ANYONE ACROSS THE WATER WONDERING)HE ASKS WHAT IM AT AND I TELL HIM IM WALKIN THE DOG THEN HE SAYS "YOUR NOT HUNTING ARE YOU"TO WHICH I SAY NO AS IM NOT AT THAT POINT SO OF THEY HEAD VERY SLOWLY ROUND THE CORNER AND WHEN THEY THINK THERE OUT OF SIGHT THEY STOP BUT SEEING THEM AND NOT BEING SURE I JUST HEAD FOR HOME,IVE BEEN LAMPIN MOST OF MY LIFE AND NEVER HAD ANY BOTHER SO I WAS WONDERING IS THERE ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE PULLED ME ON IF I HAD SAID I WAS HUNTING

Tango i ve been pulled loads of times just similar circumstances.If you reply yes im hunting they ask you for permission etc.The 2nd stage of ParSNI training is done by the biased USPCA therefore all the young coppers are taught to believe we re all sadists out torturing wildlife.

 

OR "catching badgers for DOGFIGHTING"

yeh i think so,i dont usally have any bother and think they just had feck all to do

[sean 0]

gentlemen

 

if you think the local police are bad wait to have dealings with their firearms Lic branch

 

 

sean

[tango 221]

gentlemen

 

if you think the local police are bad wait to have dealings with their firearms Lic branch

 

 

sean

oh yeh been there got the t-shirt,what really bugs me is the hassle for a 12lb air rifle and 11 month wait on the god damn certificate :realmad: :realmad: :realmad:

[sean 0]

tango

 

11 months that was probably quick for them you know what else you paid for such a wonderful service.

 

I rang them once and they blamed my doctor for taking so long however I obtained a copy of my file under data protection and guess what it wasnt my doctors fault .What they failed to tell me was that on two seperate occasions ,one for 5 months and one for 4 months my renewal just sat around with nobody actioning it.

 

When my next renewal is up I think I will send it in about a year early just to be on the safe side.

 

 

sean

[tango 221]

tango

 

11 months that was probably quick for them you know what else you paid for such a wonderful service.

 

I rang them once and they blamed my doctor for taking so long however I obtained a copy of my file under data protection and guess what it wasnt my doctors fault .What they failed to tell me was that on two seperate occasions ,one for 5 months and one for 4 months my renewal just sat around with nobody actioning it.

 

When my next renewal is up I think I will send it in about a year early just to be on the safe side.

 

 

sean

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN FELLA,WHEN WE HAD THE RUC YOU GOT IT SIGNED OFF AT THE LOCAL STATION THEN IT WENT TO HEAD OFFICE THEY IN TURN SENT IT BACK TO THE ARMS OFFICER AT YOUR LOCAL WHO FILLED OUT ANY HISTORY ON YA THERE THEN SENT IT BACK TO THEM AT HEAD OFFICE WHERE AFTER A WHILE SITTING ABOUT TILL SOMEONE FOUND IT ON THEIR DESK THEY SENT IT TO YOU NOW WITH ONLY A FEW FIREARMS OFFICERS TO SUPOSEIDLY SAFE TIME ITS TAKIN EVEN LONGER