No1ShottySid 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I set my fox trap down a small holding yesterday , as the fox recently took my mates duck.I covered the bottom of the trap in mud and put a rabbit at the face of the trap.Today i found the rabbit at the back of the trap with fox prints in the mud he obviously picked up the rabbit and carried on walking straight ahead as th trap is quite enclosed by a hedgrow.Will this effect the fox entering the trap again as he was obiously not happy because he left the rabbit behind? Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Sorry, mate. Is it me or is what ye trying to explain to us there about as clear as the bottom of that trap? A shot of the set up would be a great help. Quote Link to post
No1ShottySid 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 sorry, i baited the front of the trap to get him used to going near the trap, the fox picked up the bait and walked into the trap (straight ahead) he then walked to the back of the trap and seen he could not carry on walkin , dropped the bait and went back out the trap leaving the bait still at the back of the trap. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I can visualise what you've described. Cage set in thick cover on the run, bait by the door; foxy comes along, finds the bait, picks it up and trots off along his run pleased as punch. Then suddenly wallop - faced with a wall of mesh blocking his way. Drops the rabbit and scarpers. What I don't get is how he managed to get to the back of the trap without it going off ? I think that needs a dose of looking at. As for the return visit, I would advise you to just leave everything as it was and he might come back tonight for another look see. Leave it a few days Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I am assuming the trap wasn't set to "catch"........is that correct? If it wasn't.......................my next question would be "why not"? My advice would be to dig a hole underneath the trap at the treadle end and to put the bait in there....this sometimes entices wary foxes to find the source of the enticing aroma.......! It is hard enough to get a fox to enter a cage at the best of times ........but to let one walk in and then walk out again is a serious offence. Rolfe. Quote Link to post
No1ShottySid 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 the trap is one that needs to have bait on a pull bar the bait wasnt on the bar as ive been told to bait the entrance of the trap first(a couple of days) to get them used to going near the trap getting food unharmed, is this a load of rubbish. Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 the trap is one that needs to have bait on a pull bar the bait wasnt on the bar as ive been told to bait the entrance of the trap first(a couple of days) to get them used to going near the trap getting food unharmed, is this a load of rubbish. Yes...........a load of rubbish.........because if you had got the cage set...........you would have caught old foxy first night. I was never a fan of pre-baiting for fox or rabbit cages...........! My argument is ......if you entice them into the cage by pre-baiting........then you might as well let the door shut and catch em! Rolfe. Quote Link to post
No1ShottySid 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 i no i was gutted when i had seen he had been in there ill put bait at the back then, thanks rolfe. Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 i no i was gutted when i had seen he had been in there ill put bait at the back then, thanks rolfe. Sometimes it is best to have the pull cord running down to a treadle plate on the floor as a door trip mechanism. They are easy to modify with a bit of wire mesh. Failing that, extend the cord so the bait actually lays on the floor slightly. No self respecting fox expects to see a rabbit hanging 2ft up at the back of a cage. As with all trapping, try to make everything as natural as you possibly can.....Good Luck. Rolfe. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 My argument is ......if you entice them into the cage by pre-baiting........then you might as well let the door shut and catch em! Too f*cking right! We're out to Trap them, not Feed the buggers! What an absolute b*stard for ye, Sid! It could've been so fantastic! I've always prefered Treadle traps myself. I hang bait on a wire from the roof myself, so the customer tends to grip it in their teeth and then brace their front feet on the treadle. End of. Never mind. Perhaps he'll come back for his dropped catch and get into an arguement with the release hook? Best of luck anyway. Ye've certainly learned something now! Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 the trap is one that needs to have bait on a pull bar the bait wasnt on the bar as ive been told to bait the entrance of the trap first(a couple of days) to get them used to going near the trap getting food unharmed, is this a load of rubbish. the makers of my trap told me that too mate... i think its because your trap is like mine - a bit on the small side - and the idea behind baiting the trap at the front is to have the fox gain his confidence so that he can eventually walk in and when the trap is set to go off with the bait set nicely at the back he will be in it fully... and not trying to do a stretch from the entrance to the back so that if he does get a grip on the bait the door will fall on his back and he will reverse out... i often used to wonder at times how the feck my trap was set off and the bait was gone!!! with fox traps i think size means a hell of alot... bigger the better!!! Quote Link to post
3jackwhite3 2 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 the trap is about 3x3x6 and we had it sed for weeks at the owners of the traps house but we moved it down into a smallholding were we have been trying to snare the two, and we know theres two and cubs because there is a den at the bottom of the holding me or No1ShottySid will put up some pics of the set up. Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 3 x 3 x 6 im fairly sure thats what mine is or maybe its only a 5, i'd have to measure it... mine is the one where the bait is tied with a string through the back and over the top to the door mechanism... never had alot of success with it to be honest... a few silly cubs and a fair few moggys have been caught in it.... hope the man doesnt mind me using his pic but its a great trap and i saved the image hoping to copy it... i think this is the bizz Quote Link to post
Guest blitz Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I set my fox trap down a small holding yesterday , as the fox recently took my mates duck.I covered the bottom of the trap in mud and put a rabbit at the face of the trap.Today i found the rabbit at the back of the trap with fox prints in the mud he obviously picked up the rabbit and carried on walking straight ahead as th trap is quite enclosed by a hedgrow.Will this effect the fox entering the trap again as he was obiously not happy because he left the rabbit behind? alright mate i,ve been trapping foxes in cages for along time now and what i do is throw bait outside the trap and let the foxes take them then i put bait in the back one near the front of the cage and bait about 10 feet of the trap.that way your near enough to catch it in three days.put my traps are homemade and work of a tredal.i found foxes can be easily spooked if the bait is hanging up on wire. Quote Link to post
No1ShottySid 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 yep ive done what rolfe said and put the bait (a fresh rabbit) laying on the floor thanks for the advice everyone. Quote Link to post
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