thanks Abarrett, that made me chuckle if nothing else. I've purchased my "Hatstand" new and already had a tin of 500 through it, other then when zeroing in I had no bad shots. I've managed to put a dot on a peice of paper using a bingo dabber and its only taken me 9 shots to get rid of it entirely from about 30 meters, I don't know if that's good or bad but I was impressed with myself. The groupings are getting better and I havent yet had a pellett go missing after firing so I'll wait for that. I can see myself upgrading within a few months but I'm happy I didn't go overboard when buying my fi