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  1. American Lurchers

    in Lurchers & Running Dogs

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    Wow, been following this thread and it's great. Few questions if you don't mind.

     

    Do you use properly tested bulls with good pedigrees or any bull?

     

    Do you ever get dogs with no self preservation that just s team into the big stuff?

     

    How do you enter a dog to stuff like bears? Over here a lot o people will enter doubled for a fox so do you just put young dogs in the pack and just hope for the best?

     

    How often do you lose dogs from these dangerous animals?

     

    Sorry if you don't want to answer any

     

     

    SHH-I was a bulldog man long before I ever thought about lurchers. For me there are bulldogs and then there are the rest. That being said, I have added bulldog into almost every other kind of dog you can imagine...LOL The bull blood in my bullstags was used for hog hunting, but was old Bolio/Eli type stuff. I dont think a deep game dog is needed for crosses, as that type gameness isnt needed, and cant be expected from any dog that carries 1/2 or less of game blood. In MY lurchers the bull blood has added durability, wind, heat tolerance, and brains. A good stag is generally superior in the killing dept than most bulldogs, IMO. Most folks think the bull blood is for the kill, but if you need it for that, your not breeding the right type of running dog anyways, IMO. I would never use the ill built bulldogs ie...bullys, crooked legged, bad footed, short/squatty, etc...no matter how they were bred. I would always prefer a game dog over a cur, but I would pick a well built cur over an ill built game dog, for making lurchers.

    Dogs figure out pretty quick what they can whip and what they cant. Alot of dogs look like hard dogs, til they run into something harder. If they dont get killed quickly, they go from mute to bayers/mixers. I have seen dogs smash coon and bay at badger, smash fox and bay at coyote, smash coyote and bay at bear etc.. etc... etc...

    I expect the dogs breeding to lead it into its job. I dont "build them up" from small game to large like many do. I start hauling my pups at about 7-8 mo along with a pair of older dogs. If the pup decides to start on his first coyote, bear, lion etc... thats great. If not, its OK for a few more months, but I wont keep a dog that doesnt start by 12 mo. Im not against others doing it differently, its just the way I do it.

    Some years I lose a few dogs, some years none. Far more fall to the culling machine, than from dangerous game.

    Hope that helps some, feel free to agree/disagree, Im always willing to hear how others do it...even if I cant make any sense of it.

     

    Take care.

    well said doc it is a big thing in uk and ireland at the min to bred bull blood to make lurchers,to add fire to the dog.many lurchers have a base ie greyhound which has never been in field or seen a hunt. i do agree with most of what you are saying about adding bull which have bad make up in there genes ie bow legs bad feet to a running dog.and agree intirely about culling hard.dont know if i agree bout the ages that you give the dog time to work 12 month its very young to tell lot about a dog but as you said thats your preference.how do lurchers you bred and work take coyotes,fox and lion do you run any of the dogs single handed on these do you dispatch the animals with gun or let the dogs do the killing and is there any dog that you would like to work over there that you havent had the chance to work yet eg irish wheten,english bull ?

  5. the law in northern ireland for working dogs(above and below)

    in Earthdogs & Working Terriers

    Posted

    thanks lads for the info its just good to be abit clearer on the laws of working dogs as they seem to change to suit sometimes. i think the main thing they are looking is if a dog is showing signs of cruelty like one having a dog chewed up with no proper vet care.which to me is correct.doesnt have to be a vet but anyone who works dogs terriers and lurchers should know how to look after a dog that has just been worked or has an injury.

  7. working greyhound

    in Greyhounds

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    i got a greyhound bitch years back that was bout year old was the most nervous dog ever took my time with her and brought her round started mooching with her getting her used to me and recall aswell as stock broke and startd to lamp the bitch.in no time at all this dog was picking up quickly and was as good as any lurcher at her job she seen her first fox and coursed it.great course when she faced it she started barking bitch was 14 or 15 months and would not take it at all.after another month it was a really rainy winding nite and i came up on a fox on permison i had with her she was watching it for ages and it didnt catch sight of us at all until i was about 20 feet away she went on her back legs and was of put 2 turns and lifted it in style she was getting pressured by it but after a minute or 2 got the better of it and done her job.this bitch was a different dog after that and a really handy tool.i remember one nite me and a friend who was running a hancock bitch went slip for slip with my bitch retriving 28 live to hand and dispatching 2 fox on the way home all single handed.but unfortunatly was killed in a kennel fight some months after.was gutted

  17. new member

    in New Member Introductions

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    hi to all new to hunting life have been reading some very interesting topics on here for some time and thought it is about time to join in.been working dogs since iv been a boy good to see some honest working dog men on here. all the best pockets

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