[.243 Load for Varget]

Hi,

 

Thank you.

 

does anyone have 'best load' for this combination based on personal load development?

[first red stag]

Congrats, I will never forget mine, it was a very similar 8 pointer. Now hangs above the fireplace with a little silver plaque with place, time and date. At christmas I hang holly from the top points, it pleases the Mrs

[.243 Load for Varget]

Hello,

 

Would any members of the forum have load data for Hornady 87g BTHP with Varget (for .243) that has been tested. I expect somewhere between 35 and 37g will be the sweetspot. This will be with an AOL of 2.7005.

 

Please, no reference to other bullets, bullet weights, powders, or links to 6mm website.

 

regards,

 

Bang_bang.

[Dispatching deer using a knife through the Atlas joint]

I learnt about this from watching a video years ago, on Youtube. The video was made by a trained stalker who was called upon to deal with RTA's involving Deer for the police and he said he found it was the quickest and cleanest method to dispatch them.

The demonstration was obviously done on a dead deer so you see the exact place to push the knife through.

It left me believing it was an 'instant kill' method for using on shot and wounded or RTA deer by severing the spinal column from the brain stem. Resulting in massive shock to the brain and causing instant lifelessness or shaking jerky movements as the body twitched it's self out.

Either way - Dead....

 

I then practiced on dead deer in the larder whilst removng the skin/head until I was confident I could find it quickly (it's not hard to find with a bit of practice as it's the only place the knife will slide cleanly and easily through between the spine and skull)

 

Here's the thing though, when I actually had to use it on a deer for real, I found it didn't work??? their still blinking, breathing as if nothings happened? I've tried it twice and on both occasions it didn't give the required result.

 

Fearing I was doing something wrong, I obviously stopped trying that method and if the need arose I'd keep them pinned quietly and cut the heart through the soft opening were the neck meets the chest. This has been as effective a method as any and results in a quiet death within a maximum of a minute of two.

 

This was all years ago but recently I was out with a friend of mine who has done their DSC training and when we came across an injured deer he promptly stuck it in the Atlas joint as he had been shown by his instructor. It had the same effect it had done when I had tried it. He too had been led to believe that it would cause instant death.... He then stuck it through the heart as I would of.

 

So I guess this is as much a cautionary tale as it is a question.

Have any of you that have trained to find the Atlas joint during a stalking trip, DSc course etc. actually had to use it to dispatch??? and if so did it actually work as described to you?

 

I realise when stalking, a deer thats been shot but run on, seems to usually be left to bleed out from the wound or have shock set in so as not to chase it any further, then tracked and finished with a follow up shot, so using a knife to finish isn't usually required.

 

Are there other more effective ways of dealing with deer, with just a knife that have been involved in Road Traffic Accidents?

 

 

Sorry this has been a bit long winded but I look forward to any info.

 

ATB

 

Used this technique this weekend on Red Deer calf to good effect. Knife has to be at least 6" long though, which is illegal...that's the problem methinks ;-)