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  1. When politicians make these type of statements, I always imagine them to be addressing other members of the club.

    So in this instance Cameron would be re-assuring the soon to be hammered insurance companies (banks) that they will be reimbursed handsomely from the public purse.

    The lads can go barefoot for all he cares.

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    The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

    But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.

     

    You mean Iceland that already had a currency of it's own and now no-one will lend to them without crippling concessions also they have the credit rating of a dole dossing smack rat :laugh:

     

    I vote yes! Give Scotland it's independence we'll keep the debt and the pound you can take f**k all go it alone and in 5-10 years time go begging to Brussels :laugh:

     

    You miss the point, they said no to the too big to fails, they retained their sovereignty.

    2% unemployment and debt free, hardly 'smack rats'

     

    I agree but tell that to the world's financiers ;) They really don't like what Iceland has done :laugh: Iceland's credit is as I said before Also they have crazy laws preventing the movement of money out of Iceland blah blah basically they are solvent but blacklisted.. Imagine a millionaire who can't get a decent loan because of past history that's them :laugh:

     

    Ways and means http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/in-one-month-everyone-in-iceland-will-own-cryptocurrency

    Although the rise of crypto currencies worries me, a precursor to a cashless society maybe ? Just what the new world order desire.

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    The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

    But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.

     

    You mean Iceland that already had a currency of it's own and now no-one will lend to them without crippling concessions also they have the credit rating of a dole dossing smack rat :laugh:

     

    I vote yes! Give Scotland it's independence we'll keep the debt and the pound you can take f**k all go it alone and in 5-10 years time go begging to Brussels :laugh:

     

    You miss the point, they said no to the too big to fails, they retained their sovereignty.

    2% unemployment and debt free, hardly 'smack rats'

  4. The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

    But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.

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    Good god man, do you follow whats going on in Europe ?

    Spain Italy Greece Portugal on their knees, France and Britain not far behind.

    very true, uk gdp is worse than spain ;)

     

    its broken, time to fix it

     

    Fix it ? by seeking even closer ties to Europe ?

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    My eldest is studying politics i heard it on one of the sunday morning boring as hites programmes she watches , Any new country accepted by the EU has to take The Euro wee fat eck cant print pound notes with his face on them

    if its a yes vote, we would still be in the eu for another two years, enough time to setup membership while still a member.. its been done in 18months before

     

    eu have a team looking into it all now i believe

     

    And there we have it !! Very Independent !

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    It will be a 'yes' vote and Scotland will have the Euro (they're already in the EU)

     

     

    Those who cast the votes decide nothing

    Those who count the votes decide everything. Joseph Stalin.

    Say it is a yes vote and wee fat eck has to apply to join the EU ( as said if we get independence we have no automatic right to be in it ) as we will have no defense they will stipulate we get the euro ?.

     

    Who has said that ? If they've officially said that (I haven't heard it) its quite a wooly statement.

    What other choice is there than the Euro, as has been said on here, they'll not be keeping the pound.

     

    a pegged sovereign currency has very few drawbacks compared to a currency union , it would give the scottish government considerably more monetary and fiscal policy control, for example. the main downside is the need to have a foreign-currency reserve fund, but borrowing to set up one of those would still cost a lot less than the share of uk debt wed be walking away from, so Scotland ends up quids in on the deal

     

    That would indeed be splendid for Scotland, as it would be for any country, but you are not being offered sovereignty, just 'independence (from what ?)

    Do you actualy believe you will be free from central bank control ?

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    It will be a 'yes' vote and Scotland will have the Euro (they're already in the EU)

     

     

    Those who cast the votes decide nothing

    Those who count the votes decide everything. Joseph Stalin.

    Say it is a yes vote and wee fat eck has to apply to join the EU ( as said if we get independence we have no automatic right to be in it ) as we will have no defense they will stipulate we get the euro ?.

     

    Who has said that ? If they've officially said that (I haven't heard it) its quite a wooly statement.

    What other choice is there than the Euro, as has been said on here, they'll not be keeping the pound.

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    God bless and keep all victims of war. When will enough be enough ?

     

    The Question 1916
    Brethren, how shall it fare with me  When the war is laid aside,If it be proven that I am he  For whom a world has died?If it be proven that all my good,  And the greater good I will make,Were purchased me by a multitude  Who suffered for my sake?That I was delivered by mere mankind  Vowed to one sacrifice,And not, as I hold them, battle-blind,  But dying with open eyes?That they did not ask me to draw the sword  When they stood to endure their lot --That they only looked to me for a word,  And I answered I knew them not?If it be found, when the battle clears,  Their death has set me free,Then how shall I live with myself through the yearsWhich they have bought for me?Brethren, how must it fare with me,  Or how am I justified,If it be proven that I am he  For whom mankind has died --If it be proven that I am he  Who, being questioned, denied?
  10. Rather than debating weither our not our troops should descend to the level of the savages their facing, surely we should be asking what the feck they are doing there in the first place.

     

    Bring them home, out of harms way.

    Put them on our borders if the threat is so great.

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  11. just read the case , they should have left him die, he was injured anyway he would have prob died of his injuries fck him, they dropped a bollox shooting him With our lads dieing + blown up ,suicide bombers, etc, we not fighting normal war with fighting cowards, they should have left him there, and said they thought he was dead, save all this shit now :yes:

     

    Or, they could have helped the poor cnut, come on we're British we don't stoop to those levels.

     

    Having said that, these lads are out there trying to make the best of a bad job. Should have been dealt with internally, without the publicity. imho.

  12. its true mate, while the no campain are talking shite, salmond is securing a deal for scotland. if scotland votes yes, ones things for sure... we wont be any worse off..

     

    The words that will herald the onset of the book of revelation :laugh:

    It's suicide for a non Scot to offer an opinion on this, but consider carefully the track record of the 'Troika' (EU, IMF, ECB)

    I hope common sense prevails, good luck.

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    another link, ill not copy and paste it all, if you want information/answers have a read

     

    http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/revealed-the-accounting-trick-that-hides-scotlands-wealth/

     

     

     

    I hope that is clear but for absolute clarity let me put it in other words. Scotland paid £64.1 billion (sixty-four thousand one hundred million pounds) interest on debt that Scotland had no need for, simply because we are not an independent country! As a result, on average, £2,000 million was ripped out of the heart of Scotland’s economy every year for 32 years, to pay interest on loans that Scotland didn’t take out and didn’t need. How on earth does that make us better together?

     

    Very emotive, but remember, what nation (as a people) did take out or ask for the same loans?, The money was used to bail the banks out.

     

    Who'd want civic left wing nationalism anyway. The sunset is red, the dawn is golden.

    Careful, you get gaol for that sort of talk in Greece these days. :laugh:

  14. It is not a vote for SNP its for independence, small country's can make it on there own, Denmark, Norway, Iceland etc etc. we have natural resources and a chance to build private sector that functions and to create jobs and income. there's so much warped perceptions and scaremongering to get the truth is just hard as feck.

     

    Scotland owns just under 10% of the central bank of England therefore we would have the right to use the pound as currency and to be able have 10% of influence on the Bank of England. However if Westminster said we couldn't use the pound then we would waltz out with 10% of the reserves of the Bank of England.

     

    How can people say we wouldnt make it when other countries have went independent and it worked?

    We have a larger population than the Irish Republic, Norway, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, or Slovenia. We've got approximately the same population as Denmark or Finland. In area we're larger than Slovenia, the Irish Republic, Belgium, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, or Lithuania. We're approximately the same size as the Czech Republic or Austria.

     

    far too much shite mixed with the waffle, as a independent nation lads from scotland in the british army would still have thier jobs as part of the commonwealth this can be seen from any number of countries still being employed in the army from the commonwealth.

     

    Whilst I admire and respect your passion and patriotic zeal for the place of your birth old sport, i'm afraid you are sadly deluded if you think Scotland will be cut loose from the grip of the central banks to happily tiptoe through the thistles, whistling amazing grace.

    ALL the countries you listed in your comparison of population, are economic basket cases, just like Britain.

    Like it or not, without each other (England, Scotland, Wales) the rabid banking vampire squid will pick us off more easily, as they have done to Greece, Ireland et al.

     

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