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I was choosing between the Benelli M2 and the Beretta Xtrema. I went Benelli. 7 round FAC M2 with Comfortech stock to be precise. Love it. Put 300 cartridges through it and never a hiccup. So simple to clean. Light. Its the best gun I've ever shot. I did 70 shots in in 15 minutes this afternoon and my shoulder is absolutely fine. I've put all sorts of cartridge through it including some pretty light Clear Pigeon and it was fine. I cannot imagine anything better. PS
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Had a 20g SP3. Sold it to buy a Benelli M2 7+1. Love it. Much much much better. The Beretta was a lovely thing though. The M2 on an elasticated sling is even more comfy to carry all day than the SP3. Not all shoots ban semi-autos and not all semi-autos are hard to clean... PS
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I've put 450 shells through it now and not one hiccup. With 24 inch barrel I find it to be the most pointable, best fitting gun I've had. The ability to bring down 4 or 5 pigeons at a time is very satisfying. Its an amazing gun. Buy one if you were toying with the idea. In exchange for my SP 3 I love it and use it much more. PS
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http://www.guntrader.co.uk/?NewGunID=090730144253004 Anyone come across these people at Roger Bill shooting supplies of Bromsgrove and their version for £725 ? PS
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PRICE INCLUDES: SUPPLYING MODERATOR, SHORTENING, SCREWCUTTING & PERMANANT ATTACEMENT OF MODERATOR TO COMPLY WITH UK LEGISLATION All for £700 new. PS
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A .223 Tikka T3 works at all ranges ta. The gsg5 would be for close in work.
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Well, Silver Pigeon is great for when I'm on a paid for shoot. AYA 3 is good for giving to guests or taking out in the rain or on the back of the scrambler. Benelli M2 7+1 is great for killing game in great numbers and busting clays, the Tikka T3 kills foxes and other things at long range and is interesting as a target rifle on the shooting range. The GSG 5 would be mighty suited to clearing rabbits which are just a bit too far away for the shotguns but a wee bit overkill for the Tikka (at 80p a round). No need to be an SAS wannnabe. PS
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I have .223 on my FAC and own a Tikka T3. I've just seen a GSG-5 being used at my local range and I wondered if its possible to get them on my license. They are .22LR calibre and I think it would be great to get amongst the rabbits with one of these semi autos with 20 odd rounds... Whats the situation regarding semi auto .22LR's as far as FEO's are concerned? Couldn't find anything about it on the BASC website. If you haven't seen one there are several on Guntrader and they are an MP5 clone that look like this: http://www.guntrader.co.uk/?NewGunID=090730144252003
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Tikka T3 as its easy, not expensive, holds it money and works. Any good scope. I like Leupolds but to be honest try a cheap £60 scope and see how get on before adding another zero. Get a bipod.
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Suppressor for a Tikka T3 Lite .223
Peter Skellan replied to riflehunter's topic in Reloading and Gun Maintenance
I wouldn't bother. Its a massive weight penalty (on a rifle you've paid a premium to be light) and it makes the gun very nose heavy. For the 4 rounds a day you'll shoot through it - don't bother. Wear 15 grams of ear defenders. Sensible. PS -
Yesterday I resolved my dilemma. With a new FAC and SGC in hand I am now the proud owner of: An AYA SBS 12 bore for visitors, rough handling and general cheap gun use. A Beretta Silver Pigeon 3 in 20 bore with 30 inch barrels in mint second hand condition as my main walkabout gun and clay gun. An ex-demo Tikka T3 .223 Lite stainless, and here's where I pushed the boat out, with Leupold Mark 2 4-12 40mm T2 scope. I'll post a picture tomorrow. I think its a fairly strong gun cabinet line up and I did bust my budget but I went extravagant on the scope.
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A Beretta Silver Pigeon 3 would be the BMW 3 series of shotguns. Ubiquitous, easy to sell, competent and somewhat desirable. New ones can be had for around £1,400. The fancy new product from Beretta is the SV10 Perennia. Its a complete update with a host of new technology and features and forms the bedrock of Berettas range for the next 30 years probably. As such for around £1,800 you are getting a lot more for your money than the technology in the very tried and tested Silver Pigeon. The hydraulic kick-relief system does work but plenty of people don't like it as it makes the gun
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The new Beretta SV10 Perennia
Peter Skellan replied to Peter Skellan's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Well given the 30% decline in Sterling vs Euro its perfectly understandable that Italian Beretta would need to rise their UK retail prices. Once the deflation is over I hope you're all prepared for the hyperinflation. Buy assets now because inflation is going to eat your savings. Guns as assets also has a useful practical benefit which other assets don't I need to handle an SV10 next to a SP3 to deicide whether or not the £500 difference is something I will care about or not. Probably not, the newer gun looks mighty fine... -
The new Beretta SV10 Perennia
Peter Skellan replied to Peter Skellan's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
The cheapest Silver Pigeon 3 on Guntrader is currently at £1095. Just 10 guns down the list and you're at £1,400. I like the looks and detailing of the III. -
So there I am thinking about buying a used Silver Pigeon 3 for around £1,400 when up pops the possibility of spending around £500 more for the Perennia. I really like the look of the SV10 and I'm enthusiastic about the technology in it and the fact that its the start of the next generation of Beretta products. I just don't know anybody who has shot one, got one or has an opinion on one. Would you like one? http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/300975/Be...gun_review.html
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Point taken on trying to do everything at once. I'll start with the cheapy 12 bore and work from there. A few people have suggested a 686E as being a good allround gun. The T3 is pretty much a definite its more a matter of scope for it. It would be nice to find someone want to sell a completley set up rifle with scope/moderator/slip all included. I see plenty of new scopes being retailed on the internet but have yet to find much of an online marketplace for used scopes - is there one?
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Thanks for the advice. I was thinking a side by side for the second gun would make for something different. I believe that makes it more expensive but whats to look out for with a £400 Side by Side used 12 bore? Silver Pigeons seem like an easy choice as they're easy to sell on - I'm thinking a basic 3 is maybe best. I have a small hankering after a Cynergy Sporter but have never handled one let alone shot one. Just like the technology and can live with the looks. T3's seem cheap at the moment. Peter.
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I'm a lucky man in that I have an empty Burton 5 gun cabinet, a newly issued FAC & SGC and A £2,200 budget. I want a nice shotgun for myself something like a Silver Pigeon III second hand. A rough 12 bore for wet stormy nights and to give to visitors. A Tikka T3 .223 with scope. ( I like Varmint or Stainless just for the look). I'm drawn to a Predator8 sound moderator.. The cabinet is paid for. What I'm interested in is peoples choices of gun for the money. I'm keen on second hand and would like a Harris bipod for the rifle. I'm going to go target shooting on
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Well thanks for the input but i need a more lucid argument to change my mind. PS
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Thanks for that. I've got a notion that the Tikka T3 is viewed as better than the CZ452 for not much more money. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps this perception means it would be easier to sell a standard Tikka at a better price in the furture than a fettled CZ... I could very well be wrong. PS ps My god yesterday was a glorious day, my wife and I supported the Hunt in the Square, followed for a while then broke off for lunch and then a 6 mile walk in the woods. Perfect perfect boxing day.
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I did think that I wanted a Cynergy Sporter but there seems to be a lot of negative sentiment about them and a couple of shops/game show stands have derided them so I started looking at Silver Pigeons instead. Perhaps a T3 Tactical is a vanity that I don't really need given the weight penalty. A Lite is a lot cheaper. I'm luckily not on a tight budget - I'm more looking to treat myself and put together a very desirable cabinet and enjoy owning and using some great kit. I know the Brattonsounds are good. I just like the Burton product. It seems more like a safe than a cabinet. I
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Submitted the FAC and SGC today and ordered a Burton TCH/5 Gun Cabinet for £224 delivered incl VAT as a sign of bold confidence! The cabinet exceeds the BS standard but doesn't meet it - I'm hoping the police officer will see this as a good thing rather than a snag.. http://www.discountlocks.co.uk/Burton-TCH-...ch-fslash-5.htm I'm quite tempted by the Lancashire Tikka T3 Tactical for £775 on Guntrader with no picture in .223 Would need a moderator and a bipod and a scope so the costs are creeping up. I'm seeing some price cuts on Guntrader though.
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Thanks for the advice so far chaps. Not looked at Sako 85/75 so thats something to look at today. I don't really know how to rate a gunshop. I'd like to find a good one not too far away Herefordshire/Worcestershire/Shropshire and develop a good long term relationship with a quality dealer. However, I find it hard to know what to look for and what to ask. Hadn't considered importing from the USA. Though with the current strength (!) of the pound perhaps thats not so feasible at present. PS