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michael flatters

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  1. I have been working on a few ideas I have for trapping up on a shooting estate I go on, The keeper said something that got me thinking a bit.

     

    And it goes a bit like this most traps are placed in areas were vermin are last seen evidence of activity, places were they may cross or on runs ect ect.

     

    The most common ides to effective trapping comes down to the right Bait and the reliability of the trap and the waiting game.

     

    I was thinking that in most cases trap placement is more pot luck and more waiting, It got me thinking that the smell of bait will only travel so far and your intended pray could be the other side of a wall or hedge and never come into contact with it.

     

    The prey has more than one sense why dont we use it for example, when shooters go out to shoot a fox they sit and call drawing there prey into a area to shoot it, they dont wave bait about.

     

    Now im not saying trapping doesnt need bait im saying why not call the prey into the area were the trap is set.

     

    And yes before someone says what about a live decoy, say your trapping a fox and you have a trap with a chicken in it yes it may makes noise, but it needs tending too leaving the dreaded human sent lol, and in modern times is it ethical also when your out shooting do you call foxes in with the sound of a chicken clucking no a rabbit in distress that seems to give a urgency to the call.

     

    Also it doesnt have to be a set call just something that your intended catch will come to investigate.

     

    Aso with the digital age we live in ive read about traps that have methods of alerting you when they have been sprung which I think would be very useful, also traps that allow you to look inside via a media device, to see what you caught and how its doing, to me though this is a bit pointless however

    if you took it one step further and put a non target release door and a way of opening it remotely it could save you a lot of hassle from the owner of tiddles lol

     

    I think modern methods of manufacture and materials and design could help in the making of traps seem more humane to some people and I feel yes there would be added expense but would it be worth it.

     

    Forget the scifi stuff for now what do you recon to the call trap.

     

    All of this stuff has already been developed,you can buy electronic squeekers for the states used to draw foxes etc into traps/snares,remote monitor traps are available and i even saw on youtube the other days some guys with a cage around a hog feeder that had a camera link to the guys iPhone,when the hogs went in,it sent live footage to his phone,then he could press a button and drop the trapdoor.

  2. The thing is that most would be happy to put a Fenn trap a few inches inside a rabbit hole,but many would not feel so happy to use a cubbie with the same small amount of overhang.I suppose in the real world if we could set traps and label each one clearly to keep the dog walking gang informed we would be doing a better job,but with the risk of theft and damage to traps few would do so.Perhaps its time for the big organisations to inform the general public about trapping and also about subjects such as the correct use of poison bait etc,to me they seem to spent too much time on their members when it is public awareness we need into the work we all do.

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  3. I would agree with the last post,i would prefer to use a short cubbie wide enough to cover a set trap rather than just the wire of the fence,although i know which would catch better.Catching not target species willl always be a problem and when catching rabbit a 6" tunnel of wood or wire is of little protection to them regardless of length.In many ways a Body Grip type trap should have a different set of rules to a Fenn type trap.

  4. I set some Fenns this morning in some rabbit holes,by this afternoon i had caught one poor devil with a good neck catch,but it was still alive,i am never very impressed with the Fenn ability on full grown rabbits.i also had two traps set slightly too high and had not closed fully,so i lowered them a bit so hopefully tomorrow will be better.I do like to fit longer chains on my traps,i always seem to struggle with the standard chains.I would like to know if anyone has much luck block trapping using bodygrips and how is the best way to set them,with a cubbie still or just set back in the hole a bit.

  5. I am good friends with Agouti (nige) and he has had perhaps as much experience with nets as anyone.What he does say about drops nets is he wouldnt touch them with a bargepole,many have problems dropping correctly every time,often they need to be left up to get rabbits used to going under them which leaves them visible for theft and also if near a hedge they will catch birds and that can get you in big trouble.There are many different ways to control rabbits and personally i dont think this will be your most effective option.

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