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  1. i had the same problem with my 8 month old deerhound. when i got him he had been taught not to jump, he coudnt even jump onto the back of the ute. i quickly had him jumping on the ute by using my labrador to show him how. i would be on the ute, id call the lab up and give him a treat once he was up and id then id call the hound up. i think i got him on the 3rd try and hes never looked back.

    now for the fences. i consider the way i trained my dog to be a lot of work, or the 'hard way'. i started to construct a fence one wire at a time, id then grab a treat and call him with the command 'over'. after hed come over each wire a few times i raised the wire 1 more. i continued this over a period of a week until the fence was at full height. i then took him round our property and tried him on some other fences. he is now happily overcoming any obstacle that comes to him. depending on how despirate you are, id recomend this method, its a bit more work than some of the other methods around but the advantage i believe is that the dog will only be jumping over wire, instead of stumps and god knows what else, so he'll get used to fences pretty quickly. oh and by the way, i didnt just create a fence just for that purpose, i was lucky enough to have had a fence that needed doing on my property at that time so it all fitted into place. i also think that the age your dog is, is a good time to start him, as hes not quiet as heavy and built as he will be, which means he is less likely to do vital damage upon falling. cheers

  2. I would bet money on your dog having either a trapped nerve in either its neck or back somewhere, or a badly pulled or torn muscle. The only person who will be able to diagnose and sort this problem would be a racing greyhound 'back man' or chiropractor or a racing greyhound vet: normal vets can't handle this sort of thing: a bit like ordinary doctors (GPs) in this country not being able to sort out people's backs. Presumably its the same down under?

     

    These sort of injuries are very common among running dogs, but running a dog too young or unfit doubles your chances of it getting injured in this way. Personally, if he were my dog, I'd be concentrating on giving him steady prolonged exercise: walking and trotting and a the odd gallop to build up muscle. At only 12 months old a Deerhound is way far from being a mature adult: and he's a male as well.

     

    It will take him until he is 3 years old before he is properly mature physically, though at 2 years old he should be able to do a fair job of things. At 1 year old he's still a big puppy.

     

    OH, and jumping is one of the prime causes of trapped nerves, discs and sore shoulders etc, especially in a big dog like a Deerhound.

     

    Hope this helps.

    sure does help. thankyou skycat. just one more question... can he recover from these conditions?

  3. gday. i was looking for a hunting ute, ready for next year when a friend/neighbour offered me this old cruiser for $4500. ive been to have a look at it and its in very good condition. its got brand new tires, 4lt diesel with 130,000km on the clock. its already set up for hunting pretty much, as its got lights on the back and the lightforce spotlight mount in the roof. the bull bar is as robust as they come. it sits out about 8 inches further than the normal bully you will see these days. i just thought id ask what options there are for a ute that age, as in, what can i buy for it from places like ARB in terms of upgrades and accessories. obviously being a cruiser, there's got to be some things? ill try to get round today and grab a photo. :victory:

  4. went out for a hunt on sunday, as it was cool weather and had rained. my newbie deerhound dog chased his first fox, but let it go. he also chased a hare, but lost that as well. its ok though as he's just new to it. got home sunday arvo, and within an hour of being home, noticed that my dog was really quiet and appeared 'sore'. as he had had a big day out (got a couple of chases) i thought he must have just been worn out and tired. the next morning however, he was a lot worse. he didnt touch his breakfast and gave a yelp when i rubbed his chest. his breathing was impared and he walked with a hitched back. i ended up taking him into the vets.

    apparently he had a really bad infection which nearly killed him. the vet has no idea what caused it!!!!

     

    now here's the issue that i want advice on. its now friday and ive been working around the farm with my dogs. the hound has been with me as usual, but there has been a couple of times that he has gone to jump off the ute and when his front end reaches the ground he yelps. im actually more concerned about this than i was about the infection because it could mean that ive damaged something making him ultimately useless to me as he'll never be fit and healthy??? all i can say is that he jumps into the ute fine, and i cant notice any abnormalities in his walking. HAVE I DAMAGED HIM OR COULD HE JUST BE SORE STILL?? i was told by the breeder, not to run him hard until he is 1yr old. hes now 13 months (1 yr 1 month) but i didnt think i ran him to hard at all. the one thing i thought may have caused this is when we hit the top wire of a fence pretty hard on the jump, but even then he showed no sign of pain, and kept on running round. im really worried about him.

    im not expecting to get a diagnosis or anything of you fellas but some replys with some possible answers would be good. perhaps this may be a trait of the deerhound??? i dont know anything, you tell me

     

    cheers :drink:

  5. whats it breed and age and has it been on a fox with other dogs before and did your lab and jack chase with it . Because it might have waited for u or the other dogs to back it up because thats what he's used to also if it hasnt ran with other running dogs do it so it learns what to do if it see's a dog jump the fence while in chase it will do it aswell also when training it to jump its different when its at full speed and not looking at the fence

    basicaly in the end i think its normal for a young dog on its own to stop on a fence while chasing so the more u do it the faster it will learn but remember "monkey see monkey do" so run it with another dog

    he's a 1 year old male deerhound. he has been out with other dogs only once, in which we only got 2 chases. no the lab and the jack didnt see it as they were busy in the cover flushing him out. but the lab would have given it all he had if he had seen it. i can see what you are talking about with jumping the fences at full speed. i personally dont want to let him on rabbits as this will in a sense, teach him to chase rabbits and hares in particular. i do not want him chasing hares when and if i can help it, as this just tires the dogs out, making them inactive come time for a fox chase. there is a fellow that lives near me whom has a good working stag. i will ask him along next time as my dog can run with his: watch and learn.

    thanks for the reply allgame :signthankspin:

  6. we got 2 inches of rain overnight, so i decided to take my new dog out for a hunt and see if i could get him his 1st chase (on a fox that is) whilst the cool weather was about. as my dad and our other 2 dogs (lab and jack) flushed out the cover, one came out. the dog saw him and i said "go get him" (as you do) and he took off after it. the fox was about 100m away when he took off. the fox bolted through the open paddock with hal in pursuit. the fox reached the fence with hal barely 25m behind. here's where the problem arose:

    the fox went through the fence but hal (deerhound dog) did not go over it...... he lost sight of it for a moment, picking it up again when it hit the road, he then ran back to me, turned around and ran back and then went over the fence. however the fox was out of sight by then.

    i was a little thrown back by this as he goes over the fences with no trouble at all. i trained him to myself. as this is my 1st fox dog, im not sure if letting one go is normal for a 1st timer. so whats the go??? do i just need to keep trying?

     

    any replys/advise would be taken gladly. im confused and im hoping this does not mean he wont work. he does however, chase hares, rabbits but has not been given the proper oppurtunity to catch one yet. :hmm:

  7. dont be ashamed to shed tears mate. something like that is always very hard to come to terms with. after reading your post i went outside to my new 1 yr old deerhound and gave him a big cuddle. i once had a pet roo. had him for 4 months until a steer stood on his leg/snapped it and we had to put him to sleep. he died in my arms. i was shattered for weeks and i still think about the little guy now and then. my thoughts are with you felltool. :cry::bye:

  8. do you live in aus it is lovely there isnt it, what is the hunting like.

    australia is great. the hunting can be full on depending on what areas you are in and your quarry. id imagine that most people would be ending their seasons about now because the heat is kicking in. time to put away the breast plates for another season fellas. by the way im not a pigger so i dont know for sure about the pig season's

  9. my cousin uses a Ridgeback. its the first pig dog he's had but he says it works better than some bull x's he's seen. havent seen the dog in person myself but have seen photo's. its a good looking dog. apparently ridgbeacks are one of the breeds more suitable for hunters whom rely on a keen sense of smell from their dogs. this dog is a really good sniffer and is often hunted through sugar cane feilds and stuff in Queensland. :gunsmilie:

  10. yer what scruffy said :wallbash: me and scruffy have been to tassy before. if i remember correctly, its very hilly. deerhounds and x's of them would be a good choice for you then as deerys have strong rear ends built for pushing them up hills. i reckon a Stag x Deer would be perfect. :gunsmilie:8)

  11. hello there. i was viewing a post the other day in which i read something about a deerhound being a good boar dog. is this true? i never would have thought that stags n those sorts would be built enough for boars n pigs. so who out there uses the deerhounds and staghounds to bring home the bacon. and how good are they? strenghts & weakenesses and what are the kennels that produce good workers in australia? just an inquiry and something to talk about. hope to get some replys from ya guys. :victory::gunsmilie::drink:

  12. Yep always de-piss them first. Like ditch shitter I do this as soon as they are dead. Then as everyone says cut from below the rib-cage down as far as you need to go. I ended needing stitches last month using a blunt knife to do this job which slipped into my finger so be careful. :icon_redface:

     

    Once you get good at it you can do it on a barbed wire fence when you forget your knife. Always a good trick to know. :thumbs:

    you from Dumfriese hey? any chance you know anyone by the last name Henderson?

  13. have a Patterdale plus Lucher, or plus some gun dog like Slovak roughcoated pointer

    go with a Jack Russell, Stag or Deerhound, and if you wish, get a Lab or a pointer for finding the foxes. really you just need to get a terrior that can do foxes because if it can do them, rats.rabbits are nothing for it and the jacks are what we use here in Oz. i have never seen or met anyone over here whom owns a terrior for foxes thatr isnt a Jack or part jack. the hound will catch the pricks ofcourse and haven a keen lab or ect makes it easy to flush them out of their hiding and find the dens. our lab is awsome at that, loves working that fella. hes 9 and god knows how many hes got us good luck anyway. can you let us know what you end up getting?? :victory::gunsmilie::toast:

  14. Have just returned from the vet,after spending yet more money.Thursday i was walking the dogs,and noticed my 8 month old beddyxwhippet pup had the squits,no prob as sometimes they just do,and its gone next day.Friday morning she seemed ok,and i let my lad take her ferreting.She was her normal self,and he gave her the guts of a couple of rabbits.When he got her home she seemed a little under the weather,and still had the runs,so i gave her some goats milk with some honey and apple cider vinegar.She spewed this back up,so i decided to starve her for 24 hours.Today i took her out for a walk as she seemed ok,but when she went to the toilet, it was just like yellow froth and had streaks of blood in it.Vet examined her,said there was no imflamation,and that she didn't have a temperature,or any other symptoms to suggest she was unwell.He gave her some zitac (antacid) and mixed up some black tar like stuff called Antepsin.He said starve her for 30 hours and in the meantime give her the tar stuff,as he said it was like imodium,and would dry her up.His diagnosis is indigestion,which may have damaged the stomach lining,causing the blood,or she is bleeding from her back passage due to straining.Got to take her back Monday.Anyone had anything similar with there dogs?

     

    Been thinking Bill :hmm: (for a change :laugh: ), has she had any bones recently?

    yer thats right. bones can splinter and could peirce places during the digestion cycle ect. especially cooked bones. you should never give a dog a cooked bone. raw bones are usually fine. but a bone would not really be the cause of the yellow froth you wouldnt think. :hmm:

  15. hey all. ive got an issue i think is well worth discussing. my deerhound has recently come down with an infection they call 'Hot Spot'. its basically a place that gets really ichy and infected, and it really frustrates the dog. its in his ear. ive been to the vets/ got medication for him. but i just was wondering if anyone out there can tell me stuff about it.

    stuff like:

    • what can cause it (i do believe it was a bee sting in this case) = yeast infection
    • what i can do to prevent it happening again (perhaps clean his ear)
    • is it contageous
    • is it going to be a frequent occurence in the deery
    • should i be freaken out the way i am

    you are probly gunna say 'why didnt you ask the vet'?. all ill say is the vet never explained it and i never asked. just thought id put it to ya coz one of you is bound to have had a dog or cat get it before. ill try and grab a snap of it if ya think i should although it looks pretty vial. cheers fellow hunting chaps from Holy Grail. :victory::drink::bye:

  16. 32lb. it was the 1st fox i ever shot. got him at 65m with a .22

    we may have caught bigger though as this is the only one i can remember weighing. we only weighed him bcoz he was my first and a big b*****d. all the foxes we get round my way these days are big and healthy so who knows??? :big_boss::victory::clapper:

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