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Cissy was some operator. A late starter who many wouldn't have given the chance but soon made up for lost time. Shes in every one of my terriers today and the line still throws late starters. Which is no harm at all in my book. Great thread and photos lads

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32 minutes ago, bull mcabe said:

Cissy was some operator. A late starter who many wouldn't have given the chance but soon made up for lost time. Shes in every one of my terriers today and the line still throws late starters. Which is no harm at all in my book. Great thread and photos lads

Some take time and dont be given it

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16 minutes ago, fat man said:

If you know the breeding and the blood that's in time a bit of time doesn't cost much xs too many too quick and don't give a dog a chance, lads pts terriers 13.14 months old ridiculous in my mind. 

True. I dread to think how many potentially top class terriers have been put down too early over the years by clueless owners with big egos.

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Cissy was was a serious operator , correct me Apache if I'm wrong booths guru to his  own daughter which I owned,the bitch wasn't top notch only a middling bitch never came off but was lacking drive in my opinion ,I gave her back to RB and she went to USA ,I reared Tyson and cissy to 14 months ,Tyson was a rough dog and looking back maybe I was too inexperience in the game to be working that type of dog ,

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3 hours ago, bull mcabe said:

I never saw Tyson work but my digging partner saw him lots of times. Very good animal a bit too game for his own good. What did the rest of that litter turn out like?

Khan a male died to ground on a vixen in cub he was wedge in tight, not a scratch on fox. Voodoo a bitch never made the grade.

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Judging by what's been said on here there was some very good dogs with that blood in them, but what percentage of failures was in it as regards to workers, honest question as we have some of that blood in some of our dogs and what was mostly there style of working, hard, mixer, just curious as what I've seen of it is without doubt hard 

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Your right F.peds it was Gurya back to his daughter Peg (Gurya X Meg) which produced Tyson but I owned both mother and father, you also had another pup off me same way bred as peg maybe that was it, long time ago not 100% if it was dog or bitch, I had a good few dogs back then, Meg was a daughter of Pd's Nigger which also produced Punch another good dog.

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43 minutes ago, fat man said:

Judging by what's been said on here there was some very good dogs with that blood in them, but what percentage of failures was in it as regards to workers, honest question as we have some of that blood in some of our dogs and what was mostly there style of working, hard, mixer, just curious as what I've seen of it is without doubt hard 

With the stuff i had hear to be honest just wouldnt reproduce some good  dogs in the there.  Worker to worker with plenty breeding both sides i put false peds sammy to very good bitch here and never reproduced. Looking back now there was plenty good stuff been worked with plenty breeding in them but it didnt produce the percentages expected.  Il just go of my old dog didnt mate to whole lot but what i did put to him to didnt really throw. He was put to a bull bitch with lees breeding that threw up workers mate mine kept back bitch we done plenty digging with her not the hardest bitch but dug plenty stuff we put her to a dog of ac breeding that has thrown up a very good litter and another mating of another dog with ac breeding threw up more results for us here i put the up turn in fortune to the dogs we chose. Maybe the matings we done a few years ago the dogs and bitchs just didnt suit. The dogs used in recent years of ac breeding has thrown the better results and thats stuff we have folded back into.

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