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[Rabbit Hunter 6,008]

I’ve heard that before STR but is it true or an old wives tale? I can’t understand how the cutting of the hair could alter how it grows?

[dillydog 7,058]

16 minutes ago, Str said:

There’s better ways, dogs coats should be hand stripped not clipped there are exceptions like Bedlingtons and Wheatons but most rough coated terriers  should be hand stripped, hand stripped dogs coats grow flat to their backs keeping muck & weather out ideal for an earth dog or one that’s out all day in rain, plus in the summer a stripped coat keeps the dog cool. Clipped coats grow out and not flat to the dogs back which offers less protection against the weather and let’s muck reach the skin, continues clipping also softens the coat the only plus point is it’s easy to do.

Old wives tales

[Str 791]

1 minute ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

I’ve heard that before STR but is it true or an old wives tale? I can’t understand how the cutting of the hair could alter how it grows?

It’s because with hand stripping you are pulling the dead hair out which promotes new hair growth which thickens the coat with clipping you are just shortening the hair that’s there.

[Str 791]

4 minutes ago, dillydog said:

Old wives tales

No it’s not it’s just called that by folks who don’t or can’t hand strip there dogs, when I do mine I’ll put some before and after pics up, if you don’t fancy hand stripping your dogs rather than clipp buy a mars comb £30 ish it pulls and cuts the coat rather than just clip the coat, it’s not as good as hand stripping but much better than clipping.

[dillydog 7,058]

So it never grows back then ?

And why would clipping a dog change the direction of the hair growth or type of hair when all you are doing is cutting the hair ?

The hair grows from the follicle in the dermis, how do you imagine that cutting what's above the skin would change the genetics or process of growth under the skin ?

Surely it's more detrimental to yank out hair while hand stripping,  each to their own.

I've clipped every terrier I own since jesus was a kid, not a bad coat on the yard.

Shaving dogs however doesn't keep them cool, it has the opposite affect. 

[dillydog 7,058]

When someone comes up with a remedy for nose hairs please get in touch,  I hand strip those b*****ds and boy does that hurt, they grow back even when ripped out by the roots 

[Rabbit Hunter 6,008]

5 minutes ago, dillydog said:

When someone comes up with a remedy for nose hairs please get in touch,  I hand strip those b*****ds and boy does that hurt, they grow back even when ripped out by the roots 

And ear hairs

[gnipper 3,588]

Shaving can/does make the coat softer.

Them furminators are good for raking out thick dead undercoat too for anyone with thick coated dogs that suffer in the heat.

[rob284 1,669]

I don’t know about most patts as they don’t have the two coats a border has but a border that is clipped won’t keep its course outer coat and it will grow back soft. All the black dogs I’ve been around have been cut with the clippers and they don’t suffer the cold.

 

[dillydog 7,058]

4 minutes ago, gnipper said:

Shaving can/does make the coat softer.

Them furminators are good for raking out thick dead undercoat too for anyone with thick coated dogs that suffer in the heat.

No it doesn't,  how in Gods name could it ?

I always shave every terrier in the garden if they have a coat that needs it, NEVER ONCE has it made a coat soft.........it's a myth made up by show shit idiots

[dillydog 7,058]

Think about it logically,  what do you think happens to the hair, does the panic set in at the follicle or mid hair just after it's been cut ? 

Does the hairs molecular structure change because it's been cut absolutely no where near the follicle  ?

It doesn't make sense because it's bollox

[Str 791]

27 minutes ago, dillydog said:

So it never grows back then ?

And why would clipping a dog change the direction of the hair growth or type of hair when all you are doing is cutting the hair ?

The hair grows from the follicle in the dermis, how do you imagine that cutting what's above the skin would change the genetics or process of growth under the skin ?

Surely it's more detrimental to yank out hair while hand stripping,  each to their own.

I've clipped every terrier I own since jesus was a kid, not a bad coat on the yard.

Shaving dogs however doesn't keep them cool, it has the opposite affect. 

I didn’t say the coat wouldn’t grow back.the reason why the dogs coat changes direction is because clipping damages the outer guard hairs but the under coat is not damaged so grows as normal ,with the guard  hairs damaged and the under coat growing as normal the coat grows out .when stripping the dogs coat your pulling dead coat out so there’s no damage to the follicle.you may have always clipped your dogs and that’s upto you but there is a better way .

[dillydog 7,058]

Nonsense,  one hair can stand it but the other can't  "really " 

[gnipper 3,588]

15 minutes ago, dillydog said:

No it doesn't,  how in Gods name could it ?

I always shave every terrier in the garden if they have a coat that needs it, NEVER ONCE has it made a coat soft.........it's a myth made up by show shit idiots

Get a border, shave one side and strip the other and then in a few months tell me it doesn't change the coat.

[dogmandont 3,832]

19 minutes ago, gnipper said:

Shaving can/does make the coat softer.

Them furminators are good for raking out thick dead undercoat too for anyone with thick coated dogs that suffer in the heat.

Don’t know anything about this changing coat malarkey but I do like the furminators, always brush and hand strip purely because I prefer the look of a hand striped coat.