UphillDoc 278 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Anybody bred/seen hound cross lurchers? Curious to what the results where, and on what game was the cross used/intended for? Take care. Quote Link to post
slip 1 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Anybody bred/seen hound cross lurchers? Curious to what the results where, and on what game was the cross used/intended for? Take care. i take it you mean foxhound or beagle something of that nature!should b ok for hunting cover an chaseing in cover but lamping an ferriting as such id dought they would b much use! cross of this nature would have its nose buried to the ground for scent an n ot watching whats bolting sight hounds for sight an scent hounds for scent keep it simple save the hearthache Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,181 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Only seen one, I never got to see it work. was a foxhound/greyhound, the lad got rid of it after a short career, was just like a foxhound....only faster. He said, he should have known better. He hoped it would work more like a traditional lurcher, and also have better hunting ability. Well from what i gather its hunting ability was great, but the lad never saw much of it, as it was always miles away. Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Thanks for the replys. Im not as concerned with a dog opening as most, as I use my dogs on everything from hares to bears, so sometimes a dog opening is even a welcome thing... Im hoping the cross will produce something "like a foxhound....only faster" Take care. Quote Link to post
Get_On 3 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 heard they make top quailty lurchers.. My Da had 1 was a gud fox dog very fast.. like all breeds gud and bad in all .... all the best Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 "like a foxhound only faster" You gotta love that. Quote Link to post
slip 1 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Thanks for the replys. Im not as concerned with a dog opening as most, as I use my dogs on everything from hares to bears, so sometimes a dog opening is even a welcome thing... Im hoping the cross will produce something "like a foxhound....only faster" Take care. thats what you will get fast fox hound how bad hope works out for ya......slip Quote Link to post
jrearthdog 8 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) uphilldoc if you put the speed of the lurcher into a hound do you think you will get what you are hoping for ,i would not think that this cross would not be able to pick up the scent as well or trail as it will be moveing a lot faster Ian Edited June 18, 2008 by jrearthdog Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 jrearthdog-I dont hunt in the "traditional" way for coyotes, so I dont really want a "traditional" type dog. Im sure they will not run a track as old or as long as a straight hound will, and thats a good thing, IMO. Im looking for sprinters that can keep a race going when it hits the cover, and hopefully push it back out into the open, or make the catch. Im fully prepared to fail at it, but have to see for myself if it will work or not in my type country. Take care. Quote Link to post
Neil Cooney. 1 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Uphilldoc, you lost ???? LOL The hound cross has been tried over the years always to try and get a new cross to excel at a certain type of hunting. Years ago here in Ireland when the hare coursing men wanted a cross with endless stamina they used the beagle or harrier cross. And it was quiet good for it's time. As far as I remember J.K.s bitch "Chorus" was very well known for killing hares. She was a beagle cross. But the Saluki came along and lets face it the Saluki is a running dog with the required stamina. It was the same with the foxhound cross to kill foxes, the bull cross stopped that too. Through out history possibly the only hound cross that might have went on to stand the test of time was that those that know say that the Fell hound is descended from a foxhound X greyhound but obviously this was then bred back to the hound. Quote Link to post
jrearthdog 8 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 uphiildoc i know that a guy called frosty from australia had posted some pics of a airedale x bull x(i think it was greyhound) he was useing his dogs in the bush there on boar and he said that the airedale gave the dog a good nose and also good head and feet Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) Neil-Im always lost...LOL My dilema here is that most the "foxhounds" dont have the desire/ability to run to catch the coyote and most the "stags" dont have the desire/ability to keep a race going when they come unsighted. I live in high desert country with broken sage, so the dogs come unsighted regularly, but Im not interested in following hounds for hours because they wont push the game hard enough to catch it. I may end up with a pure hound, a pure stag, and couple crosses in my pack, or maybe two seperate packs of each pure when its done, but I would like to see if the crosses can do well enough at each specialty that they are of more use to me than keeping two packs of specialists. jrearthdog-Thats good to hear. I have a bullstag gyp that will be my "foundation" as she does all I have asked of her, and more. I plan to breed her to a StagXhound in the future, but may take her to either a pure stag or a pure hound as well. I like the idea of the extra track and stamina some hound blood may bring to the cross. I know a couple bear hunters that have crossed lurchers (A bullstag and a Airedalestag) over Plott hounds for bears, and they like what they got. Take care. Edited June 18, 2008 by UphillDoc Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 i know guys wh have tried the cross lurcher cross running walker and thye done well with them , nose speed and were tough at the kill cheers Quote Link to post
bluecollar 104 Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Neil-Im always lost...LOLMy dilema here is that most the "foxhounds" dont have the desire/ability to run to catch the coyote and most the "stags" dont have the desire/ability to keep a race going when they come unsighted. I live in high desert country with broken sage, so the dogs come unsighted regularly, but Im not interested in following hounds for hours because they wont push the game hard enough to catch it. I may end up with a pure hound, a pure stag, and couple crosses in my pack, or maybe two seperate packs of each pure when its done, but I would like to see if the crosses can do well enough at each specialty that they are of more use to me than keeping two packs of specialists. This is what I am trying to do too, running the yotes in the sage and junipers... UphillDoc I think I have your # I will try to give you a call... Christian J. Quote Link to post
bowers1986 3 Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 A mate of myn had a first cross fox hound greyhound,,he's since sold it on,,Looked quite similar to a bull greyhound to be honest Quote Link to post
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