DIDO.1 22,666 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 On 30/10/2024 at 10:04, Greyman said: I said at the start that these people needed to stand not guilty they all folded and took the bait we still have a legal system I can't get to the bottom of how people got so long in prison (well I can but proving it is a different matter) . 6 months is maximum sentence in magistrates court yet they were getting years. Sometimes a district judge sits in a mags court but they still have the same sentencing powers. I can only think that people were conned into saying guilty being told they would get a discharge, then finding themselves Infront of a crown court judge. I've asked magistrates, legal advisors and solicitor but not one can explain what's happened and all said with the information they had these people won't of been sent down. It's bizarre how people have been set up somewhere and nobody seems to know anything about it like it's happened behind closed doors 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: I can't get to the bottom of how people got so long in prison (well I can but proving it is a different matter) . 6 months is maximum sentence in magistrates court yet they were getting years. Sometimes a district judge sits in a mags court but they still have the same sentencing powers. I can only think that people were conned into saying guilty being told they would get a discharge, then finding themselves Infront of a crown court judge. I've asked magistrates, legal advisors and solicitor but not one can explain what's happened and all said with the information they had these people won't have been sent down. It's bizarre how people have been set up somewhere and nobody seems to know anything about it like it's happened behind closed doors that’s what happens in communist country’s there political prisoners and we call north korea lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,341 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: I can't get to the bottom of how people got so long in prison (well I can but proving it is a different matter) . 6 months is maximum sentence in magistrates court yet they were getting years. Sometimes a district judge sits in a mags court but they still have the same sentencing powers. I can only think that people were conned into saying guilty being told they would get a discharge, then finding themselves Infront of a crown court judge. I've asked magistrates, legal advisors and solicitor but not one can explain what's happened and all said with the information they had these people won't of been sent down. It's bizarre how people have been set up somewhere and nobody seems to know anything about it like it's happened behind closed doors Magistrates is a kangaroo court controlled by the authority’s and they get the outcome they want regardless of legalities obviously this won’t be an official line but from experience it’s how I see it works in reality, each and every one of those arrested should have taken there legal right of trial by judge and jury but they were told plead guilty or face 10 years and most buckled the ones like the one I put up will walk but it will get no or little coverage as it sets the wrong example, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,544 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 23 minutes ago, Greyman said: Magistrates is a kangaroo court controlled by the authority’s and they get the outcome they want regardless of legalities obviously this won’t be an official line but from experience it’s how I see it works in reality, each and every one of those arrested should have taken there legal right of trial by judge and jury but they were told plead guilty or face 10 years and most buckled the ones like the one I put up will walk but it will get no or little coverage as it sets the wrong example, That's true and more than likely like me you are speaking from experience on how the judicial system works. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,341 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 32 minutes ago, mC HULL said: that’s what happens in communist country’s there political prisoners and we call north korea lol Come on mate you get tortured and disappeared in those places if you don’t comply these people were given a choice and they took the wrong one it’s that simple we still have a decent legal system but magistrates are not part of it, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WataWalloper 347 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 29 minutes ago, Greyman said: Magistrates is a kangaroo court controlled by the authority’s and they get the outcome they want regardless of legalities obviously this won’t be an official line but from experience it’s how I see it works in reality, each and every one of those arrested should have taken there legal right of trial by judge and jury but they were told plead guilty or face 10 years and most buckled the ones like the one I put up will walk but it will get no or little coverage as it sets the wrong example, A good few years ago I got took to court over one the daft acts, Clive Reese told me to take it to crown court on out very first meeting, he sat me down an told me that magistrates would and have already found me guilty, this was weeks before we actually went to court, sure as shit stinks when we got to court we had a mini trial haha an was found guilty but I said I wanted to appeal it, lad who was my co-de shat himself an took the guilty on the chin an signed his dogs over to that dodgy charity, anyways fast forward a few months an we go to crown, an just like the man promised me, it was thrown out of court, all sentences over turned an I was free to go, poor Cnut that was my co-de tho, still had a pet ban an allsorts hanging over him fcuk the magistrates, they are only volunteers who only turn up for the free cake an summat to talk about at there golf club at weekends, wankers the lot of them 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 33 minutes ago, Greyman said: Come on mate you get tortured and disappeared in those places if you don’t comply these people were given a choice and they took the wrong one it’s that simple we still have a decent legal system but magistrates are not part of it, you mean turn up dead like the old boy ? what do you think was happening to him mental torture in a jail full of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,341 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 17 minutes ago, mC HULL said: you mean turn up dead like the old boy ? what do you think was happening to him mental torture in a jail full of them I,m an old boy to but I,m f****d if I’d roll over and take it up the rusty sheriffs badge sad as it is he chose to get involved he chose to fess up at the first hurdle and he chose to top himself when things got sticky, you don’t get any of those choices in a true dictatorship Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 9 minutes ago, Greyman said: I,m an old boy to but I,m f****d if I’d roll over and take it up the rusty sheriffs badge sad as it is he chose to get involved he chose to fess up at the first hurdle and he chose to top himself when things got sticky, you don’t get any of those choices in a true dictatorship well i know you don’t get locked up in the first place in a democracy mate he got involved because little lasses were slain on our streets again 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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