Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 This afternoon after a discussion with Tony Andrews, the head of the Scottish Countryside Alliance. I have resigned as a member of that organisation on a number of points, I have also realised (maybe a bit late) that it is not as supportive of its members as we'd like to think and it responds more to the views of an elite clique, My website will continue to be supportive of all members of the countryside community who hunt with dogs and not just hounds, There is no Coursing in Scotland and the taking of hares is also illegal, my website and its forum pages are open to all who use Lurchers and Terriers I would ask?? what are the benifits in being a member of an organisation that gave up its appeal on the hunting with dogs issue because the hunting with hounds is safe in Scotland?? and what right do they have?? to ask me to change the name of my website before they give me a resiprocal link to their website. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Takes balls to stand up for your principles Tom. Some of us appreciate the commitment, of people like yourself, to the cause. If you decide to pursue a different path, keep us posted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Takes balls to stand up for your principles Tom. Some of us appreciate the commitment, of people like yourself, to the cause. If you decide to pursue a different path, keep us posted <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A guy with lurcher and a couple of terriers as just as much valid commitment to hunting with dogs, as some-one with a red coat and a horse and I'm supportive of both, "THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE" I kept terriers long before I shot or became involved in foxhunting and my commitment is still as strong, despite today, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 A very good post there Tom...without the terrier and lurcher folk the CA would fold... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaun v 3 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 well said tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 A very good post there Tom...without the terrier and lurcher folk the CA would fold... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My worry J is that if a licencing system comes in south of the border the CA won't need you, (that's what has happened to some lurcher and terrier men in Scotland) because foxhunting with hounds might be secure?? In a telephone conversation yesterday with an official of the SCA it was made clear to me that the public don't see Hare Coursing, the use of Lurchers for the taking Deer and Hare, and Stag hunting as well, as the use of Beagle's as acceptable and as a compromise one of the major Countrysports organisations may be prepared to sacrifice them for foxhunting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bracken boy Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 big respect 4 u tom, im moving up scotland soon but ive got 2 lurchers so not happy . kind regards. bb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 big respect 4 u tom, im moving up scotland soon but ive got 2 lurchers so not happy . kind regards. bb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BB, you can still legally take rabbits with Lurchers in Scotland but taking hares is illegal, I dont know if your dogs can tell the difference because, some of the police up here can't Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 0 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 big respect 4 u tom, im moving up scotland soon  but ive got 2 lurchers so not happy . kind regards. bb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BB, you can still legally take rabbits with Lurchers in Scotland but taking hares is illegal, I dont know if your dogs can tell the difference because, some of the police up here can't Tom <{POST_SNAPBACK}> An often quoted statement! But do you think it will take them long to cotton on that a hare is twice the size of a rabbit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 big respect 4 u tom, im moving up scotland soon  but ive got 2 lurchers so not happy .  kind regards. bb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BB, you can still legally take rabbits with Lurchers in Scotland but taking hares is illegal, I dont know if your dogs can tell the difference because, some of the police up here can't Tom <{POST_SNAPBACK}> An often quoted statement! But do you think it will take them long to cotton on that a hare is twice the size of a rabbit? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Most Scottish police officers are deployed in cities and towns, and there is a massive shortage of beat cops, where are they going to get the manpower to police the Scottish countryside and if hares are twice the size of rabbits how do you explain Bugs Bunny, and Roger Rabbit????? Tom :search: :search: :search: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IanB 0 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 0 Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Tom <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Even jocks can use a ruller im sure of that! We really musen't become complacent it's going to be an uphill strugle now and anyone who thinks otherwise is on drugs!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 An often quoted statement!But do you think it will take them long to cotton on that a hare is twice the size of a rabbit? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spoke to a Constable, from the Met, on September 15th when we were all down at Parliament Square. He asked one of the demonstrators to explain terrier work. The demonstrator patiently explained that it was the practice of entering a terrier to a fox earth... Before he could continue the Constable said "What's An Earth?" Now I don't believe for the minute that the police are stupid but some of them are extremely ignorant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fellman 116 Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 An often quoted statement!But do you think it will take them long to cotton on that a hare is twice the size of a rabbit? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spoke to a Constable, from the Met, on September 15th when we were all down at Parliament Square. He asked one of the demonstrators to explain terrier work. The demonstrator patiently explained that it was the practice of entering a terrier to a fox earth... Before he could continue the Constable said "What's An Earth?" Now I don't believe for the minute that the police are stupid but some of them are extremely ignorant. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was the same copper who said "i can kill more with my shot gun than you lot with your horses".................of the twenty people me and chris were stood with not one had a horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 people think the ban is all about horses ..............which an work for us yis fellman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 An often quoted statement!But do you think it will take them long to cotton on that a hare is twice the size of a rabbit? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spoke to a Constable, from the Met, on September 15th when we were all down at Parliament Square. He asked one of the demonstrators to explain terrier work. The demonstrator patiently explained that it was the practice of entering a terrier to a fox earth... Before he could continue the Constable said "What's An Earth?" Now I don't believe for the minute that the police are stupid but some of them are extremely ignorant. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was the same copper who said "i can kill more with my shot gun than you lot with your horses".................of the twenty people me and chris were stood with not one had a horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 people think the ban is all about horses ..............which an work for us yis fellman <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You watch what happens the emphasis will change from hunting with dogs to hunting with hounds, the Countryside Alliance are sure to do this, as will the media, and lurcher and terrier men in England and Wales will suffer as they have in Scotland, despite giving their support to mounted packs, they were used a sacrificial lambs to help foxhunting, I know because I saw it happening and other people in the foxhunting community, were getting pissed off at my vociferous support for Terrier and Lurcher men Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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