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[mackem 23,736]

3 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

True, but who you going to vote for...that....or the party that will tell you they want more immigrants and will finish hunting. Don't think anyone votes conservative because they trust em, it's just a vote to delay the end of hunting and the end of white Britain. The only possible reason to vote Tory is to keep labour out. That's a scary position to be in 

Rock or a hard place,damned if you do damned if you don’t.

[downsouth 6,827]

45 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

True, but who you going to vote for...that....or the party that will tell you they want more immigrants and will finish hunting. Don't think anyone votes conservative because they trust em, it's just a vote to delay the end of hunting and the end of white Britain. The only possible reason to vote Tory is to keep labour out. That's a scary position to be in 

I know what you mean mate.I dont want Labour in any more than you but Ill be f**ked if I can bring myself to vote for that other bunch of entitled private school f**kwits that haven't a clue what its like to struggle just to keep the other pack of c**ts out

[Bakerboy 3,236]

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[zigzag dan 784]

Amazes me how the same folks who want to see illegal immigration sorted out will still vote Labour next time ,remember if and when Labour get in ,they will have an open door policy on immigration ,kids allowed to legally change gender at 16, hunting and shooting finished ,eventually followed by dog and horse racing ,as a nation of patriotism and traditionalism we are finished ......yes ,things arent good ,but it will get a damn sight worse. 

[sandymere 8,261]

22 hours ago, neil82 said:

was it not Starmer who blocked investigation into Jimmy Saville, two faced useless cnut that he is,  labour will stoop to any levels to attract votes but they are too bloody stupid to look at their own actions before pouring a bucket of sheite over themselves, no party is deserving of any votes, if you do vote and there is an independent candidate who seems to have more than 2 brain cells, vote for them.

Keir Starmer led the CPS when it did not charge Jimmy Savile, but he wasn’t the reviewing lawyer - Full Fact

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Keir Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions when it was decided there was insufficient evidence to charge Savile, but he was not the reviewing lawyer on the case.

 

[tatsblisters 7,929]

1 hour ago, zigzag dan said:

Amazes me how the same folks who want to see illegal immigration sorted out will still vote Labour next time ,remember if and when Labour get in ,they will have an open door policy on immigration ,kids allowed to legally change gender at 16, hunting and shooting finished ,eventually followed by dog and horse racing ,as a nation of patriotism and traditionalism we are finished ......yes ,things arent good ,but it will get a damn sight worse. 

Thing is the Tories have been shocking on illegal immigration and to be honest I couldn't see any political party bringing a law out banning dog and horse racing their is too much money involved. I think it will be the state of the NHS that will give the next GE to labour. 

[sandymere 8,261]

Another tory term will see the end of the NHS and social care with a retirement age of seventy and a worthless pension, its all about priorities.

A labour government under Starmer is not my ideal but would bring a better future to the NHS etc and may well bring proportional representation which is the best outcome for  minority groups such as ourselves if our voices are to be heard. Parties like Brexit would have gotten 10 MPs at the last election rather than 0 which would have put them in a position to hold a casting vote on many issues and at least have given their voters a voice rather than a silence in Government.

This is based on voting last time round.

 

 

	% Votes	Seats under FPTP	% Seats under FPTP	Seats under d’Hondt	% Seats under d’Hondt	Difference in Seats
Labour	32.2%	202	32.0%	216	34.2%	14
Conservatives	43.6%	365	57.8%	288	45.6%	-77
LibDems	11.5%	11	1.7%	70	11.1%	59
Brexit Party	2.0%	0	0.0%	10	1.6%	10
Greens	2.7%	1	0.2%	12	1.9%	11
SNP	3.9%	48	7.6%	28	4.4%	-20
Plaid	0.5%	4	0.6%	4	0.6%	0
Others (includes speaker)	4%	1	0.2%	4	0.6%	3

 

The sad reality is that without a move to proportional representation a vote for any party other than the main 3 is a waste in England just as a Brexit vote was a waste back then. So it is the best of two evils, labour will support the NHS etc and unlikely to want to piss of the Fishing lot as that is a lot of their voters and have internal pressure to instigate proportional representation.

Conservatives will see it as a green light to cut public services even further until they no longer exist to speak of and our roads etc are untraversable, our elderly and vulnerable are expected to die quietly in their beds through lack of care of medicine whilst they go private, our children go to shite schools whilst theirs go private and we work till we die whilst they get tax breaks on their pensions over a million pounds etc, etc.

 

[DIDO.1 20,846]

19 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Thing is the Tories have been shocking on illegal immigration and to be honest I couldn't see any political party bringing a law out banning dog and horse racing their is too much money involved. I think it will be the state of the NHS that will give the next GE to labour. 

We said that about hunting and shooting 

[chartpolski 20,404]

24 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Thing is the Tories have been shocking on illegal immigration and to be honest I couldn't see any political party bringing a law out banning dog and horse racing their is too much money involved. I think it will be the state of the NHS that will give the next GE to labour. 

Haven’t the Welsh Labour Government banned Greyhound racing in Wales ?

Just checked. Not banned yet. It’s at the proposal stage .

Cheers.

Edited April 10, 2023 by chartpolski

[DIDO.1 20,846]

24 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Another tory term will see the end of the NHS and social care with a retirement age of seventy and a worthless pension, its all about priorities.

A labour government under Starmer is not my ideal but would bring a better future to the NHS etc and may well bring proportional representation which is the best outcome for  minority groups such as ourselves if our voices are to be heard. Parties like Brexit would have gotten 10 MPs at the last election rather than 0 which would have put them in a position to hold a casting vote on many issues and at least have given their voters a voice rather than a silence in Government.

This is based on voting last time round.

 

 

	% Votes	Seats under FPTP	% Seats under FPTP	Seats under d’Hondt	% Seats under d’Hondt	Difference in Seats
Labour	32.2%	202	32.0%	216	34.2%	14
Conservatives	43.6%	365	57.8%	288	45.6%	-77
LibDems	11.5%	11	1.7%	70	11.1%	59
Brexit Party	2.0%	0	0.0%	10	1.6%	10
Greens	2.7%	1	0.2%	12	1.9%	11
SNP	3.9%	48	7.6%	28	4.4%	-20
Plaid	0.5%	4	0.6%	4	0.6%	0
Others (includes speaker)	4%	1	0.2%	4	0.6%	3

 

The sad reality is that without a move to proportional representation a vote for any party other than the main 3 is a waste in England just as a Brexit vote was a waste back then. So it is the best of two evils, labour will support the NHS etc and unlikely to want to piss of the Fishing lot as that is a lot of their voters and have internal pressure to instigate proportional representation.

Conservatives will see it as a green light to cut public services even further until they no longer exist to speak of and our roads etc are untraversable, our elderly and vulnerable are expected to die quietly in their beds through lack of care of medicine whilst they go private, our children go to shite schools whilst theirs go private and we work till we die whilst they get tax breaks on their pensions over a million pounds etc, etc.

 

See I don't think that labour will help the NHS. They may borrow money short term and create a mini boom, they may invest more using our children's childrens credit card.....but will they sort the actual issues? £250 to change a light bulb, hospitals spending   eighty grand a year on pest control (one man one day a week), millions more migrants. Personally I they they are and historically have been part of the issue. The NHS isn't designed to cater for unlimited spending on unlimited issues for unlimited numbers of people. 

If you are a white working class straight male with traditional values and a love of fieldsports and you vote labour then you are seriously mentally retarded. 

Edited April 10, 2023 by DIDO.1

[tatsblisters 7,929]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Haven’t the Welsh Labour Government banned Greyhound racing in Wales ?

Cheers.

I don't know. I just can't see them trying to ban it they'll have their work cut out with other more important issues in their first term if it's right what Sandy claims about proportional representation surely that can only be a good thing for parliament. 

[mackay 3,049]

I think when it's all said and done we all of us know you cannot trust any of the two faced fcukers. How good would it be if just for once we all stood our differences down and stood together and told the whole fcuking lot of them get to fcuk.

[chartpolski 20,404]

1 minute ago, mackay said:

I think when it's all said and done we all of us know you cannot trust any of the two faced fcukers. How good would it be if just for once we all stood our differences down and stood together and told the whole fcuking lot of them get to fcuk.

That would be great, but human nature being what it is, it won’t happen. 
The “tribal” voting, the “me da and me granda voted Labour so I will” is still rife, especially in places like Newcastle.

I’m old enough to remember when Labour represented the working man, and I voted for them for many years, but Labour has taken the working class voter for granted for some time now, and is more interested in niche areas now; gay and trans rights, immigrants rights, ethnic rights, than the blue collar working class.

Labour is led by champagne socialists, oxbridge millionaires, living in Islington, far removed from their “core vote”, not, ironically, to different from the Tory’s.

To think that dislike and disdain for Labour automatically makes you a Tory is completely false. They are as bad as each other.

Its time to drain the swamp….  Problem is; who is going to do it ?

Cheers.

[downsouth 6,827]

18 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

See I don't think that labour will help the NHS. They may borrow money short term and create a mini boom, they may invest more using our children's childrens credit card.....but will they sort the actual issues? £250 to change a light bulb, hospitals spending   eighty grand a year on pest control (one man one day a week), millions more migrants. Personally I they they are and historically have been part of the issue. The NHS isn't designed to cater for unlimited spending on unlimited issues for unlimited numbers of people. 

If you are a white working class straight male with traditional values and a love of fieldsports and you vote labour then you are seriously mentally retarded. 

Like Ive already stated I will never vote Labour but if you are a working class male and you think that the Tories give a flying f**k about you or your loved one old and young then you are as equally retarded.And as for field sports,theyre f**ked whatever government were under its just a matter of time.

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