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What is it with time wasters in the bird an dog game. Some people want things given on a plate. It's crazy how they want the best quality birds or dogs but don't want to pay the money. The work an effort that goes in to condition a bird from nest to sticks then to breeding condition is not easy an to keep some birds on the sticks and not toes up is even harder. Specially when your not into medicatiing the birds up doing it all natural. A tell them if your want run of the mill shite go see a dealer an in a few weeks you'll be out looking to buy more crazy world we live in guys. 

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1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

As a complete novice to which you refer to mate ,can you explain the “on the sticks not toes up “thing please .

I'm guessing he means standing on a perch vs belly up mate.....

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1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Ah I thought it was some sort of foot training ??

The sayin getting them to the sticks. Is a meaning having the young fledge without any complications or young dead in nest mate. Plus some young die before their first moult , sometimes when in moult with stress or not looked after right . That's the meaning toes up dead mate 

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7 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

The sayin getting them to the sticks. Is a meaning having the young fledge without any complications or young dead in nest mate. Plus some young die before their first moult , sometimes when in moult with stress or not looked after right . That's the meaning toes up dead mate 

Thanks mate .Never been into cage birds tbh but thanks .

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