paulus 26 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 With all that's happened with our energy prices over the last year or so, Is sticking to the tried and tested old fuels the way forward in the long term?. I have been told by people that test are currently being carried out that consist of over sleeving our existing gas pipe network so that hydrogen can be pumped down them, This way there is less infrastructure changes needed during the transition, i have also been told that electric cars are a none starter and not to buy one as hydrogen fuelled cars will soon be on the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, paulus said: i have also been told that electric cars are a none starter and not to buy one as hydrogen fuelled cars will soon be on the market. Does that mean those ones ~ when they crash and burn, trapping you inside ~ will go off like a bomb? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ken's Deputy said: Does that mean those ones ~ when they crash and burn, trapping you inside ~ will go off like a bomb? just like with petrol or lithium batteries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Is there such thing as a Petrol Battery? I thought they were based on lead and acid? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,909 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, paulus said: With all that's happened with our energy prices over the last year or so, Is sticking to the tried and tested old fuels the way forward in the long term?. I have been told by people that test are currently being carried out that consist of over sleeving our existing gas pipe network so that hydrogen can be pumped down them, This way there is less infrastructure changes needed during the transition, i have also been told that electric cars are a none starter and not to buy one as hydrogen fuelled cars will soon be on the market. Anything sold by the government will cost you, be it hydrogen leccy gas etc get an aga and solar and if you have room a little turbine for the night time when your panels aren’t generating, it’s also not hard to make your own gas with a tank of shit and a lorry inner tube every new house could be built off grid if they really cared 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greyman said: Anything sold by the government will cost you, be it hydrogen leccy gas etc get an aga and solar and if you have room a little turbine for the night time when your panels aren’t generating, it’s also not hard to make your own gas with a tank of shit and a lorry inner tube every new house could be built off grid if they really cared I remember reading a book by John Seymore years ago, called the guide to self sufficiency, He stated that a minimum of 8 acres were needed including a wooded area. he built his house so his cooker and heating was fed from outside, The reality is how many people can afford to go down this route as much as most would love to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 What ever happened to that motor fuel made from rapeseed oil? I don't really follow this shit, because I haven't got a motor. I genuinely have no concept of all this stuff. But, I rem,ember a photo of a big, green tank or two, at the side of a road, beside a field? What happened there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,322 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Woodpigeons Ken. They decided we shouldn’t shoot the beggars ffs. Jok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,322 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Should have started KD. SORRY. JOK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,909 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, paulus said: I remember reading a book by John Seymore years ago, called the guide to self sufficiency, He stated that a minimum of 8 acres were needed including a wooded area. he built his house so his cooker and heating was fed from outside, The reality is how many people can afford to go down this route as much as most would love to. We can all do it just need to escape the money tread mill, less is more kind of thing but hey that’s just my dream 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,347 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 31 minutes ago, paulus said: With all that's happened with our energy prices over the last year or so, Is sticking to the tried and tested old fuels the way forward in the long term?. I have been told by people that test are currently being carried out that consist of over sleeving our existing gas pipe network so that hydrogen can be pumped down them, This way there is less infrastructure changes needed during the transition, i have also been told that electric cars are a none starter and not to buy one as hydrogen fuelled cars will soon be on the market. All are furnaces at work are gearing up for hydrogen but they can also run on gas. Think hydrogen is going to be the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, jok said: Woodpigeons Ken. They decided we shouldn’t shoot the beggars ffs. Jok. ??? Sorry, mate. Ye've lost me, completely, now. Where do woodpigeons fit into all this? Are they protected now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,909 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Not from me there not 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I think Hydrogen ticks a lot of boxes, either in the form of internal combustion or fuel cell. I don't think battery power will ever go away, but I don't think it will be the only way forward. With any of the above we still need a fundamental energy source. And imo that will be nuclear. Initially small modular fission reactors and eventually fusion. But oil and gas isn't going anywhere in a hurry, no matter how many Van Goghs get souped. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,819 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, paulus said: With all that's happened with our energy prices over the last year or so, Is sticking to the tried and tested old fuels the way forward in the long term?. I have been told by people that test are currently being carried out that consist of over sleeving our existing gas pipe network so that hydrogen can be pumped down them, This way there is less infrastructure changes needed during the transition, i have also been told that electric cars are a none starter and not to buy one as hydrogen fuelled cars will soon be on the market. Fukc me Paul, nothing for ages then all over it, don't tell me you forgot your password? Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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