jukel123 6,570 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 On 08/07/2022 at 21:06, comanche said: I think they probably are related. Corgis are supposed to be derived to shipperkes( l just know l've spelt that wrong) ,which are related to Northern dog breeds. Little sods for heel nipping which l guess comes for them being bred as cattle and watch-dogs. When l was growing up a neighbour had a corgi x alsation. That must've involved some amusing contorions in the mating department! Thinking about it; back in those days just about every other dog on the streets seemed to be an alsation crossed with something like a collie or lab... . And they all came with a serious health warning not to touch! I remember a Jack Russel serving a deerhound lurcher bitch. I was a young lad ferreting and the dog had shown some interest in the bitch all morning. There wasn't much action around the setts and the lurcher bitch lay down. Seconds later they were tied. All was OK until the bitch stood up and the jack found himself suspended by his dick. Fortunately I grabbed the bitch and held her steady and my mate lifted the dog. We had borrowed both dogs and returned them as though nothing had happened. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 5,862 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, steve66 said: Remember a relative over Bury way having lancashire heelers , never seem to hear of any these days A farm I use to buy eggs and spuds from had one little cnut lived in a out building always nipped back of my leg then did one but the farmer reckoned it was his best ratter nasty little b*****d 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,791 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 hours ago, steve66 said: Remember a relative over Bury way having lancashire heelers , never seem to hear of any these days My ex Mrs's family had Lancashire heelers. First time I met her mum I picked one up, had it under my arm stroking it, like you do I just tipped it forward and dropped it expecting it to jump to the floor from my arms.....fckin thing face planted straight into the wooden floor with a sickening thump. They hadn't told me it was blind. Obviously it was my fault . Fckin horrible stinking yapping bastarrds. To this day whenever I see one I envisage her miserable moaning face and get an urge to volley the fcker down the road 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 14,553 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Anyone remember Huddersfield terriers ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 3,075 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Anyone remember Huddersfield terriers ?? Never heard of one , so i googled it and it came back mostly to do with the football club Are they similar to a yorkie ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,183 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, steve66 said: Never heard of one , so i googled it and it came back mostly to do with the football club Are they similar to a yorkie ? I thought that was the start of the Yorkshire terriers seen a few down Weymouth yesterday , ex girlfriend had 2 of the low lean bodied type . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: My ex Mrs's family had Lancashire heelers. First time I met her mum I picked one up, had it under my arm stroking it, like you do I just tipped it forward and dropped it expecting it to jump to the floor from my arms.....fckin thing face planted straight into the wooden floor with a sickening thump. They hadn't told me it was blind. Obviously it was my fault . Fckin horrible stinking yapping bastarrds. To this day whenever I see one I envisage her miserable moaning face and get an urge to volley the fcker down the road Remember a fair amount of Lancashire healers, as you say yappy and good ratters. As for volleying, my nearest neighbour has five chihuahuas. Every month or so they escape and come and harass me whilst I'm in the garden. They act just like a wolf pack. Always nip from the back and whilst you are dealing with one attack, another little fecker attacks on my blindside. My neighbour then arrives all apologetic and promises he'll keep them in in future. I've got this recurring fantasy, I would love to grab them one by one and volley them over my f****n roof. Orrible, bulgy eyed,noisy, hysterical little b*****ds with little man syndrome. Edited July 10, 2022 by jukel123 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 14,553 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Bush Rummager said: Old one of me here... guessing about '87 ish. Trusty old school lab and an Italian Spinone. I don't think there were many Spinone's in the country back then. Stiil hardly see any now but when i have they seem big cloddy overweight things. Probably bred for the ring. He ended up in the hands of some wrong uns before my dad took him on for a new start. Fantastic dog into the wind on winter wheat to find a seated hare and throw a point.. totally natural to him it was. Very timid though.. probably due to his early start in life... hence the name we gave him.. Tim.. Check my catty out!! Bonny looking dogs them spiones , a farmer up by me used to have them and Brittany spaniels at the beating just as a change to the springers and gwp dogs everyone else had 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Bonny looking dogs them spiones , a farmer up by me used to have them and Brittany spaniels at the beating just as a change to the springers and gwp dogs everyone else had Personally I've never seen a decent Spinone or Brittany spaniel. GWPs are OK on the land they were bred for but not great on traditional UK shoots. You can't beat a Springer or a Lab imo. Folk are trying to reinvent the wheel and failing. Don't fix what ain't broke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,183 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Personally I've never seen a decent Spinone or Brittany spaniel. GWPs are OK on the land they were bred for but not great on traditional UK shoots. You can't beat a Springer or a Lab imo. Folk are trying to reinvent the wheel and failing. Don't fix what ain't broke. I suppose like all gun dog breeds they were developed for the purpose and country /terrain they lived in originally some adapt to different uses or terrain others are more specialised /one trick . when I was a kid springers looked similar to a Brittany or a collie x springer , they were leggy and capable of retrieving over barbed wire fences then they suddenly got smaller and look like they do now . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, forest of dean redneck said: I suppose like all gun dog breeds they were developed for the purpose and country /terrain they lived in originally some adapt to different uses or terrain others are more specialised /one trick . when I was a kid springers looked similar to a Brittany or a collie x springer , they were leggy and capable of retrieving over barbed wire fences then they suddenly got smaller and look like they do now . Yeah, they were harder in temperament too. Now they are eager to please. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 5,944 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 23 hours ago, steve66 said: Remember a relative over Bury way having lancashire heelers , never seem to hear of any these days All the old dears round here had them or bow legged jacks when I was a kid and they were all snappy little b*****ds. I think they call them ormskirk heelers now and they are a rare breed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 09/07/2022 at 21:41, Bush Rummager said: Old one of me here... guessing about '87 ish. Trusty old school lab and an Italian Spinone. I don't think there were many Spinone's in the country back then. Stiil hardly see any now but when i have they seem big cloddy overweight things. Probably bred for the ring. He ended up in the hands of some wrong uns before my dad took him on for a new start. Fantastic dog into the wind on winter wheat to find a seated hare and throw a point.. totally natural to him it was. Very timid though.. probably due to his early start in life... hence the name we gave him.. Tim.. Check my catty out!! Your dead right about Spinones these days. One of the Rangers on a nearby country park has one. Like it's parents, it's a big, cloddy, ungainly thing. Hardy got a run, or free movement in it. Fecking orrible... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 I do like an Ormskirk/Lancashire Heeler though. As a kid there were loads of em about, sadly not so many now. And we all knew, never try to befriend one, they had the snap of an alligator...! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 5,944 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: I do like an Ormskirk/Lancashire Heeler though. As a kid there were loads of em about, sadly not so many now. And we all knew, never try to befriend one, they had the snap of an alligator...! Its weird how they just seemed to vanish isn't it. I've said on here before about the heeler my mates nan had but it was the fastest thing for its size I've ever seen and hunted like a natural from the first time we took it out. It was also a snappy little shit that got you as you left. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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