Born Hunter 17,622 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 18 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: Farmers are also partly to blame for staffing difficulties. Farmers do in many cases live on another planet, if I'd of had decent bosses paying what I knew they could afford I'd probably still be milking cows, at least part time.....i know a lot of other lads who left the industry for the same reason. When you eat your dinner while driving a tractor or expected to interrupt your food 4 times to keep checking on a calving cow.....then see your wage has been docked an hours dinner break! I know lots of farmers, many good friends, but non understand managing people I’m not saying it’s right or wrong BUT, in other industries if a company didn’t embrace the emerging and dominant management methodologies of the time to remain competitive then they’d either go bust or just keep their heads afloat until they eventually folded with the owners retiring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 29/04/2022 at 11:03, Born Hunter said: What I don’t understand is if it’s so simple as supermarkets doing whatever they want why farmers aren’t cooperatively striking? NFU? If supermarkets can’t get eggs at the price they want then they’ll pay more surely? Naive view sure, but I’d like to hear why. If farmers are really going bust at current prices then the supply will collapse and the prices will have to go up to bolster it anyway. Ive got mates in farming and we’ve all listened to how farming is f****d for decades. But they’re all still managing skiiing holidays and new discos/RRs… even the non land owning lads still afford new hiluxs. Bit hard to swallow at face value tbh. Thats commie talk. Shame on you. Bumped into a friend. He's a dairy farmer..state of the art. Buys all the latest technology. He says he's getting good money for milk because there's a shortage of the stuff. Lots of small dairy farmers have been forced out, so its a sellers market for those left in the industry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Thats commie talk. Shame on you. Bumped into a friend. He's a dairy farmer..state of the art. Buys all the latest technology. He says he's getting good money for milk because there's a shortage of the stuff. Lots of small dairy farmers have been forced out, so its a sellers market for those left in the industry. So you might say the free market righted itself 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: So you might say the free market righted itself Trouble is when everything is controlled by AI, and drones and robots have taken over, how do the billions of little people get their money? The one thing we do well as a species is breed. But there will be very little need for workers or soldiers or any little people in the future. I forsee lots of hungry, discontented people, and the multi nationals sitting pretty whilst pulling the strings of corrupt politicians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Trouble is when everything is controlled by AI, and drones and robots have taken over, how do the billions of little people get their money? The one thing we do well as a species is breed. But there will be very little need for workers or soldiers or any little people in the future. I forsee lots of hungry, discontented people, and the multi nationals sitting pretty whilst pulling the strings of corrupt politicians. Our machine overlords will send us back down pit. Your mob will be living the dream again! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 20,379 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 I don't see the rise of I.A. making people redundant. I prefer to see it as raising skill levels considerably. Who will design them ? Who will build them ? Who will write the programmes ? Who will service them ? Humans....... It may just make people raise there game, get better educated, aim higher. But who really knows ? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: Our machine overlords will send us back down pit. Your mob will be living the dream again! Your mob, led by Boris, are living their dream now. But for us it's a nightmare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyla 3,179 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I kept a few hundred hens up until recently. The combination of feed going up and forced lock down every winter made it not worthwhile in the end. Shame really as I used to enjoy it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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