Jonjon79 11,188 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, W. Katchum said: I’m in, where do I report Me to - I just need to find my pointed pellets, I'll have an eye out with those apparently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 5,876 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 3 hours ago, W. Katchum said: Surely I ain’t the only Cnut sick of hearing about it. Why can’t we just get suited and booted, go over an slap both sides an tell em to calm the fcuk down or we gonna start rebuilding the empire, starting with Russia this time Because there's billions to be made don,human life don't matter to the elite,were cannon fodder as you know,disposable according to the parasites. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Born Hunter said: The stated objectives seemed to be 1) protect ethnic Russians 2) de-nazify Ukraine 3) demilitarise Ukraine. With several other non-stated objectives that are arguably the real reasons such as, deter NATO expansion, stop the placement of US Aegis ashore defence system in Ukraine, increase control of the Black sea, deter EU expansion, increase Russian geopolitical power, open up Crimea's water supply again etc. They haven't yet taken the whole Donbas region. They withdrew from their northern front. They have withdrawn from Snake island which is of strategic importance in providing area denial for pushing further west on the coast. They have motivated Finland and Sweden to join NATO, set to dramatically increase the NATO-Russia border. European nations have increased defence spending. They have effectively up-armed Ukraine through military aid and driven nations that traditionally armed themselves with Soviet/Russian kit towards using Western kit. I don't think any side has 'won'. Ukraine has lost territory and Russia has settled for a fraction of what they initially attempted to achieve, and in fact actually made objectives like NATO expansion and the military capable of Ukraine worse for themselves. And the war isn't even over yet. Western nations are now supplying Ukraine with new types of weapons needed for this new stage in the war. Russia taking four months to achieve that, literally on their doorstep, is not quick by historical standards. the ruble is up country’s including european countrys and some on the sly are opening banks in russia and paying for gas etc in rubles we’re suffering more than russia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 16,776 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 37 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the ruble is up country’s including european countrys and some on the sly are opening banks in russia and paying for gas etc in rubles we’re suffering more than russia How are we suffering? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 10,633 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 eh, fekin lurpak butter £ 9 a tub, i like it larraped on my toast 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: How are we suffering? fuel prices threw the roof gas petrol we don’t even get from russia everything increased food wise they need to get the money from somewhere to send the arms company’s billions been sent in weapons to ukraine all the while russia everything is cheaper food fuel then it was before the ruble is up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 16,776 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, mC HULL said: fuel prices threw the roof gas petrol we don’t even get from russia everything increased food wise they need to get the money from somewhere to send the arms company’s billions been sent in weapons to ukraine all the while russia everything is cheaper food fuel then it was before the ruble is up Fuel prices have nothing to do with Russia. It’s about the only thing that hasn’t been sanctioned by those that actually need Russian oil. Food isn’t cheaper in Russia. They’ve literally enacted price caps to control the spiralling cost. They might be self sufficient in grain production but that needs processing and for that they need to import materials which they are being restricted on. The biggest hurt they’re feeling is loss of hardware and lack of components to rebuild tech of all kinds. Their component supply chains are heavily from the west. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Fuel prices have nothing to do with Russia. It’s about the only thing that hasn’t been sanctioned by those that actually need Russian oil. Food isn’t cheaper in Russia. They’ve literally enacted price caps to control the spiralling cost. They might be self sufficient in grain production but that needs processing and for that they need to import materials which they are being restricted on. The biggest hurt they’re feeling is loss of hardware and lack of components to rebuild tech of all kinds. Their component supply chains are heavily from the west. food and fuel prices have gone down in russia since we sanctioned them the ruble is doing the best it has in years of cause our fuel price increase has something to do with it we have to make money to buy weapons to send ukraine heavily from the west who get everythjng from china Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 16,776 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: food and fuel prices have gone down in russia since we sanctioned them the ruble is doing the best it has in years of cause our fuel price increase has something to do with it we have to make money to buy weapons to send ukraine heavily from the west who get everythjng from china Dare I ask if you have anything more substantial than a FB post to support that? A fortnight ago the governor of the Russian central bank was on record at a conference estimating inflation at 14%! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: Dare I ask if you have anything more substantial than a FB post to support that? A fortnight ago the governor of the Russian central bank was on record at a conference estimating inflation at 14%! what was inflation at before we sanctioned them ? the world is bigger than europe and the us born why is the ruble up the pound down from what it was after crimbo january 1000 dollars was 730 quid now it’s more like 840 everything here as gone up some things double the price we are suffering much worse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 16,776 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 40 minutes ago, mC HULL said: what was inflation at before we sanctioned them ? the world is bigger than europe and the us born why is the ruble up the pound down from what it was after crimbo january 1000 dollars was 730 quid now it’s more like 840 everything here as gone up some things double the price we are suffering much worse You said food had gone down in Russia since sanctions and it's just nonsense. Sanctions haven't crippled Russia, and there are several dimensions to that, but I never claimed they had anyway. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 10,633 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Can any kind soul spare me a bit of margarine please fer my nightly slice of toast , I thank. You 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: You said food had gone down in Russia since sanctions and it's just nonsense. Sanctions haven't crippled Russia, and there are several dimensions to that, but I never claimed they had anyway. i’m saying food here is 40 percent higher about russia aren’t feeling no squeeze there self sufficient and can still sell oil and gas the ruble is doing better than any currency this year Edited July 5 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 16,776 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i’m saying food here is 40 percent higher about russia aren’t feeling no squeeze there self sufficient and can still sell oil and gas the ruble is doing better than any currency this year No, you said there food was cheaper than before sanctions. Russian inflation is expected to be higher than ours. The rubble hasn’t stopped that! Where have you got 40% inflation for food from? It’s estimated at 15%. Whereas in Russia it was spiralling so much the gov had to cap it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 5,684 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: No, you said there food was cheaper than before sanctions. Russian inflation is expected to be higher than ours. The rubble hasn’t stopped that! Where have you got 40% inflation for food from? It’s estimated at 15%. Whereas in Russia it was spiralling so much the gov had to cap it. from going and doing a shop born not estimated same as fuel from hundred quid to about 160 we’re getting raped left right and center 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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