Russia Ukraine ww3 we're all going to die!!

[Borr 2,190]

1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said:

And the 13 million gallons of chemical weapons used against civilians in Vietnam? Did any one get the blame. I'm not taking putins side I'm really not. But we aren't the free world.....we don't own our houses the banks do, we do own our cars, the finance companies do, most don't own their mobile phones the phone companies do and you pay monthly for 18 months, we can neither feed or warm ourselves unless the government supplies it for us or imports it. 

There is 2 systems of governing and dominating people.....the Soviets way and the globalist 'west' way. Neither care about the people. These two sides have been locking horns by proxy for a long time....cuba/Afghanistan /Vietnam. Now they are doing it through Ukraine, and the west have been promoting that, arming that and wanting it for years. At some point they will come to a final showdown....

If you think this is all because putin is a 'baddie' then fair play . Personally I think that's as stupid as believing that millions of lads were butchered in the first world war for 'freedom' 

Why do we have to set our moral compass by historical past deeds, Britain had an empire, so did Mongolia and Italy but they don't keep harping on about it. I agree that people aren't top priority in any of these conflicts but I just think I'd rather take the western system warts an all than China Russia system, I can't fathom how you think they're the same ....

[Arry 11,192]

1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said:

Again....thats so simplified. Talking German because Hitler was a baddie. 

.....or perhaps you could really study the causes of the 2nd world war and how it actually happened as a result of the first World War. 

I do know about both world wars mate I find it that very interesting.

I said in the beginning of the post its my view  as in my opinion and although it may be different I'm still entitled to as you are to your opinion.

Cheers Arry

[kanny 15,020]

 

[DIDO.1 13,693]

1 hour ago, Arry said:

I do know about both world wars mate I find it that very interesting.

I said in the beginning of the post its my view  as in my opinion and although it may be different I'm still entitled to as you are to your opinion.

Cheers Arry

You most definitely are

[Born Hunter 16,551]

Salvo of brimstone, outgoing. Allegedly the Russians have got their hands on one already.

 

[kanny 15,020]

 

[kanny 15,020]

 

[Born Hunter 16,551]

Sweden and Finland are making formal moves to join NATO. Very loud moves.

[kanny 15,020]

53 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Sweden and Finland are making formal moves to join NATO. Very loud moves.

I think Turkey have a few objections,  saying they need to sort out their  terrorist problems first...

[Born Hunter 16,551]

22 minutes ago, kanny said:

I think Turkey have a few objections,  saying they need to sort out their  terrorist problems first...

Turkey have been playing both sides for years. Pound to a pinch they’re using this to regain some leverage with Putin.

They’ve found themselves at serious odds with Russia recently but still seem to keep the door open. I suppose having options keeps everyone on their toes.

[kanny 15,020]

Apparently there's a 40km range on these,  the Russian equivalent have a 18km range , these are also pretty new still so still retain their accuracy whereas the Russian kit is said to be well used and not accurate due to worn barrels ect.. 

[WILF 37,625]

When all the oil and power companies have replaced profits lost in the pandemic and all the governments have collected enough extra duty and VAT to pay for a bit of the pandemic and when people are in such rag order that they ain’t got time to question what a bunch of absolute wankers their elected politicians are…..then the war will end  

[Borr 2,190]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

When all the oil and power companies have replaced profits lost in the pandemic and all the governments have collected enough extra duty and VAT to pay for a bit of the pandemic and when people are in such rag order that they ain’t got time to question what a bunch of absolute wankers their elected politicians are…..then the war will end  

And back on planet earth.....

[WILF 37,625]

Just now, Borr said:

And back on planet earth.....

Maybe  

[mC HULL 5,400]

9 minutes ago, WILF said:

When all the oil and power companies have replaced profits lost in the pandemic and all the governments have collected enough extra duty and VAT to pay for a bit of the pandemic and when people are in such rag order that they ain’t got time to question what a bunch of absolute wankers their elected politicians are…..then the war will end  

your correct wilf you finally admitting you was hoodwinked into a jab