Born Hunter 17,622 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Quote “It’s worth emphasizing that if Sweden were attacked and looked to us for help and support, then we would provide it, but it’s up to Sweden to make the request and to spell out exactly what support is requested,” Johnson told reporters during a joint press conference with his Swedish counterpart. “We are steadfast and unequivocal in our support to both Sweden and Finland and the signing of these security declarations is a symbol of the everlasting assurance between our nations. These are not a short term stop gap, but a long term commitment to bolster military ties and global stability, and fortify Europe’s defences for generations to come”, Britain commits to defending Sweden and Finland if attacked UKDEFENCEJOURNAL.ORG.UK British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has agreed bilateral security deals with Finland and Sweden, promising that... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,479 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: But he has warned us he would do it an we never listened, I not a putin fan mate so you preaching to the choir. But I’m a firm believer of, if you been blatantly Fcuking warned, an keep doing whatever it is, then you got to take consequences on the chin. Right or wrong, it’s just life Warned about what? Weapons for Ukraine? This is our war , Europe. If he wins he gets more powerful very quickly , and other hostile nations see no consequence to doing as they please. He has to go , sooner the better , if he pressed a button he and his cronies would immediately be wiped off the face of the earth and many of his own people would be too. He's fully aware of the outcome. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,338 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 This is a good listen if you are concerned about things going nuclear or just interested in the situation in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,479 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, W. Katchum said: Didn’t he say he would take actions against any country supporting them, I don’t agree mate it’s not my war, nowt to do way me or mine, your welcome to it if you want it Well I'd sooner it fought in Ukraine than the UK. No war is good obviously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,817 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Borr said: I think you could unequivocally blame Putin if he presses the button..... He's killing thousands of innocent people , he's a twat. And the 13 million gallons of chemical weapons used against civilians in Vietnam? Did any one get the blame. I'm not taking putins side I'm really not. But we aren't the free world.....we don't own our houses the banks do, we do own our cars, the finance companies do, most don't own their mobile phones the phone companies do and you pay monthly for 18 months, we can neither feed or warm ourselves unless the government supplies it for us or imports it. There is 2 systems of governing and dominating people.....the Soviets way and the globalist 'west' way. Neither care about the people. These two sides have been locking horns by proxy for a long time....cuba/Afghanistan /Vietnam. Now they are doing it through Ukraine, and the west have been promoting that, arming that and wanting it for years. At some point they will come to a final showdown.... If you think this is all because putin is a 'baddie' then fair play . Personally I think that's as stupid as believing that millions of lads were butchered in the first world war for 'freedom' 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,537 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) I my view Russia invading the Ukraine is an attempt to control the West. Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe we rely heavily on the grain and food that come from it. If Russia controlled that like the gas they would have the power. Ukraine is an Independent country being invaded we are just supplying weapons for them to defend them selfs. We all be talking German if we had an attitude like some are saying on here in 1939. Cheers Arry Edited May 12, 2022 by Arry 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,537 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: And we would be talking German also If everybody thought like you an never served for there country, it works both ways arry I don't under stand mate. Cheers Arry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: And the 13 million gallons of chemical weapons used against civilians in Vietnam? Did any one get the blame. I'm not taking putins side I'm really not. But we aren't the free world.....we don't own our houses the banks do, we do own our cars, the finance companies do, most don't own their mobile phones the phone companies do and you pay monthly for 18 months, we can neither feed or warm ourselves unless the government supplies it for us or imports it. There is 2 systems of governing and dominating people.....the Soviets way and the globalist 'west' way. Neither care about the people. These two sides have been locking horns by proxy for a long time....cuba/Afghanistan /Vietnam. Now they are doing it through Ukraine, and the west have been promoting that, arming that and wanting it for years. At some point they will come to a final showdown.... If you think this is all because putin is a 'baddie' then fair play . Personally I think that's as stupid as believing that millions of lads were butchered in the first world war for 'freedom' Good post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,817 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Arry said: I my view Russia invading the Ukraine is an attempt to control the West. Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe we rely heavily on the grain and food that come from it. I Russia controlled that like the gas they would have the power. Ukraine is an Independent country being invaded we are just supplying weapons for them to defend them selfs. We all be talking German if we had an attitude like some are saying on here in 1939. Cheers Arry Again....thats so simplified. Talking German because Hitler was a baddie. .....or perhaps you could really study the causes of the 2nd world war and how it actually happened as a result of the first World War. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Arry said: I my view Russia invading the Ukraine is an attempt to control the West. Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe we rely heavily on the grain and food that come from it. I Russia controlled that like the gas they would have the power. Ukraine is an Independent country being invaded we are just supplying weapons for them to defend them selfs. We all be talking German if we had an attitude like some are saying on here in 1939. Cheers Arry You probably didn't even know where Ukraine was 70 days ago and now you're talking as if you know it well...the bread basket of Europe he says...just like BBC C4 C5 and ITV.... Your as sucked in by this proxy war as you were covid.... Where in the history of war did a prime minister or a president or film actors or musicians EVER visit a warring country.... NEVER... Now you have Boris Johnson, Mrs biden Angelina Jolie and that wanker bono and the edge having a concert there....stick you to peeling spuds and making nice dinners... Because it's quite clear you can't think for YOURSELF... there's over 35 million cell phones in Ukraine...I'd say three quarters of them would have a camera in this day in age...were is the Ukrainian civilians footage of all this war? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,537 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, stop.end said: You probably didn't even know where Ukraine was 70 days ago and now you're talking as if you know it well...the bread basket of Europe he says...just like BBC C4 C5 and ITV.... Your as sucked in by this proxy war as you were covid.... Where in the history of war did a prime minister or a president or film actors or musicians EVER visit a warring country.... NEVER... Now you have Boris Johnson, Mrs biden Angelina Jolie and that wanker bono and the edge having a concert there....stick you to peeling spuds and making nice dinners... Because it's quite clear you can't think for YOURSELF... there's over 35 million cell phones in Ukraine...I'd say three quarters of them would have a camera in this day in age...were is the Ukrainian civilians footage of all this war? You are a sad case mate. Cheers Arry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 1,913 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 worth a listen. The War In Ukraine Is Over (With Gonzalo Lira) - Gemma O'Doherty Investigative Journalist Ireland GEMMAODOHERTY.COM Share thisFacebookTwitterRedditPinterestEmailLinkedInWhatsApp ... Read More Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,479 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, stop.end said: You probably didn't even know where Ukraine was 70 days ago and now you're talking as if you know it well...the bread basket of Europe he says...just like BBC C4 C5 and ITV.... Your as sucked in by this proxy war as you were covid.... Where in the history of war did a prime minister or a president or film actors or musicians EVER visit a warring country.... NEVER... Now you have Boris Johnson, Mrs biden Angelina Jolie and that wanker bono and the edge having a concert there....stick you to peeling spuds and making nice dinners... Because it's quite clear you can't think for YOURSELF... there's over 35 million cell phones in Ukraine...I'd say three quarters of them would have a camera in this day in age...were is the Ukrainian civilians footage of all this war? I believe lots of musicians and actors have visited the troops during wartime. Ukraine produces 30% of world grain I believe The war is primarily being fought in the east, it's a huge country. Getting a bit personal on here, just opinions at the end of the day. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,479 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: And the 13 million gallons of chemical weapons used against civilians in Vietnam? Did any one get the blame. I'm not taking putins side I'm really not. But we aren't the free world.....we don't own our houses the banks do, we do own our cars, the finance companies do, most don't own their mobile phones the phone companies do and you pay monthly for 18 months, we can neither feed or warm ourselves unless the government supplies it for us or imports it. There is 2 systems of governing and dominating people.....the Soviets way and the globalist 'west' way. Neither care about the people. These two sides have been locking horns by proxy for a long time....cuba/Afghanistan /Vietnam. Now they are doing it through Ukraine, and the west have been promoting that, arming that and wanting it for years. At some point they will come to a final showdown.... If you think this is all because putin is a 'baddie' then fair play . Personally I think that's as stupid as believing that millions of lads were butchered in the first world war for 'freedom' Why do we have to set our moral compass by historical past deeds, Britain had an empire, so did Mongolia and Italy but they don't keep harping on about it. I agree that people aren't top priority in any of these conflicts but I just think I'd rather take the western system warts an all than China Russia system, I can't fathom how you think they're the same .... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,537 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: Again....thats so simplified. Talking German because Hitler was a baddie. .....or perhaps you could really study the causes of the 2nd world war and how it actually happened as a result of the first World War. I do know about both world wars mate I find it that very interesting. I said in the beginning of the post its my view as in my opinion and although it may be different I'm still entitled to as you are to your opinion. Cheers Arry 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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